Its no secret I don't like this front office!My question to you is if you are the owner what record do the dolphins need to have to keep this current regime?To clarify I am talking tannebaum and grier.For me its 10-6.Anything less bye!The only exception is a 9-7 wildcard.
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If I was the owner, they wouldn't be here to see the kick off of game one. Simples.
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Coach is there
Need Wade Phillips type to divide and help Gase get long term plans and systems in place. A coach that knows his place and will allow Gase to save face and still be "The Man".
Fire Tannenbaum or severly restrict his input on player personal and.contracts - been there done that - NO MORE
Greer needs to be allowed to do his job unimpeeded.
I would look to move Tannehill in next 2 yrs. Conditions would need to be right. I wouldnt move him for the sake of moving him. However, at almost 20m a yr - maybe
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To keep the front office, I think it takes 7-9 WITH a healthy Tannehill. Or it could be as high as 8-8 if we really screw up in the first few rounds of the draft. Luckily for our front office though, we're going 13-3 and winning the Super Bowl next season.
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I won't be happy with anything less than 9-7. Philbin had no trouble taking us to 8-8, and so far Gase is averaging 8-8 over two (regular) seasons. If in year 3 he doesn't produce at least 9-7 I'm going to turn on Gase.
And I say that understanding that there have been coaches that needed 4+ years before succeeding. Thing is, they usually took over bottom dwellers while Gase was given an "average" team to work with. So 8-8 or worse for me will be a failure.Carmen Cygni likes this. -
Grier has doen a decent job actually.
I could give or take Tbaum at this point.
I think we're seeing Gase seize more control of things. If that's the case, I'm fine with Tbaum sticking around being the dealmaker for what Gase & Grier want. Say what you will about Landry was actually worth, but considering we were in a no leverage situation, getting a 4th & 7th (which may go up possibly) is actually pretty good.
Before the flames start, I'm not saying he got all the Landry may have been worth, I'm saying we had ZERO leverage. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Everyone knew we couldn't afford Landry at $16 mil for one year and do anything else to improve the team. Because everyone knew that, we had no bargaining power.
I just don't want Tbaum making personnel decisions.Phins_to_Win and texanphinatic like this. -
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I think this FO is going to be around a while. Either we let them ride out the Tannehill years or if they're going after a new QB this year then we've got to let them work with that talent for 2-3 years minimum.
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For me it isn't a matter of record, but one of all around steady growth. So, I guess the bar for me would be set a little lower than some of you. I want to see steady player development, wise personnel moves, intelligent play calling, a team playing together with great chemistry, etc. It might be slow and steady, but as they say, Rome wasn't built in a day. I think Tannenbaum and Grier believe they can buy a team. That might be true in the NBA, but in the NFL the salary cap can really wreck havoc if you screw up. We could write a book on that, right? Bucky Brooks was saying on his Move the Sticks podcast that in the draft you are looking to hit doubles and not always go for the homerun. He believes doubles (guys that are productive members on your team) will go much further than always just swinging for the fence. Better to hit on a slightly lessor player than strike out on a potentially great player. I like that philosophy. Too bad, Tannenbaum seems like a swing for the fence type of guy. Every dog has his day, so hopefully he will get lucky this year!
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A good enough record to win the division, get a 1st round bye and get to the afc championship
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2017: 0
2016: 1
2015: 2
2014: 2
2013: 1
2012: 2
2011: 3
2010: 1
etc...
Maybe you're setting the bar a little too high? haha.Pandarilla likes this.