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Where do we rank in the AFC in your opinion?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Dorfdad, May 4, 2023.

  1. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Give it a break? You are the one that butted your way into this conversation, and made it a personal matter. I don't have much interest in discussing topics with you. You've shown yourself to myself and others when challenged.
     
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  2. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    The Jets juggernaut defense beat:

    Jacoby Brissett
    Mitch Trubisky/Kenny Pickett
    Skylar Thompson
    Aaron Rodgers
    Brett Rypien
    Josh Allen
    Trevor Siemien

    The Jets had 16 takeaways last year. The Dolphins had 14.

    Their defense is severely overrated.
     
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  3. cbrad

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    I butted in because you acted like someone else (TDK) was somehow being unnecessarily insulting given your posting history. And if you don't have much interest in discussing topics with me (obviously.. you lose based on the facts presented), then just stop responding to me. Won't change my willingness to butt in again if you try acting like it's another poster that's being unnecessarily insulting. You have too much of a history to justify calling anyone out on that.
     
  4. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Sounds good. I'll be sure to report your posts to the moderator in the future. As I won't allow your personal insults to derail threads.
     
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  5. cbrad

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    Yeah go ahead. Why don't you report my posts now? Let's see if I violated any rules of this board.
     
  6. btfu149

    btfu149 Well-Known Member

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    Imo, the Jets will split with us and Buffalo and sweep NE. At home I would have them favored vs LA, Washington, Houston and Atlanta. Losing to KC and Philly. On the road I would favor them be Denver, Vegas, Giants and Cleveland. Losing to Dallas. I can’t see them missing the playoffs.
     
  7. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Moderators already know who you are..

    We can have fun any way we want

    :)
     
  8. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    He has a knack for doing that.
     
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  9. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    That post reminded me of the TK Parrot head guy that used to post here.... is he still around?
     
  10. VManis

    VManis Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think you mean CK Parrot head. Chris stopped posting here when his podcast started to take off.
     
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  11. btfu149

    btfu149 Well-Known Member

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    It’s a shame we lost him and Travis Wingfield who used to post here
     
  12. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    That sound right :)
     
  13. VManis

    VManis Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I was so happy for Travis when he got that job, talk about living your dream.
     
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  14. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    I miss Travis, but he was required to stop posting due to the fact that he now has a prominent position with the Dolphins official media team. Certainly can't hold that against him! Any of us would do it. Just yesterday, I watched a video of his on the Instagram account, and smiled and showed my wife.

    The other guys just chose to leave us and do something else. Oh well.
     
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  15. Wilkimania

    Wilkimania Well-Known Member

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    I'll go

    Buffalo
    Miami
    Jets
    Patriots

    But I wouldn't be shocked by any order of the top 3.

    Then there's the other option where Rodgers/Allen gets injured at which point the whole division is a guess.
     
  16. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    I’m a believer in the Fangio defense. I’ll go

    Miami
    Buffalo
    Jets
    New England.
     
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  17. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    If The Bills lose Allen for any real length of time, then it depends on where they are in their schedule. Interestingly, the only time where they play two Divisional opponents in a 3-week span is facing the Fins and Patriots the last two games of the year. Otherwise, he could miss as many as 5 games and just hit one team in the East. Making it great for that one, but bad luck for the others.
     
  18. Pauly

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    I can understand why many sites have the Jets higher than the phins. Rogers is a simpler and more obvious fix to their problems than Fangio + Ramsey + return to health of our DBs is for the phins.

    Having said that I’m really excited about our D and think that we’ll be a top 10 D this year.

    Tom Brady has shown that a 40ish QB can recover from a down year, but I think Tampa provided Brady with more offensive help than the Jets are providing Rogers.

    I still think the Phins are better than the Jets, but it relies on more things going right for us than the number of things the Jets need to go right for them.
     
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  19. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    Jets WR are not trash and their RB situation is good. Their OL was pretty bad though.
     
  20. Fireland

    Fireland Well-Known Member

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    Jets defense is good but they caught a ton of breaks which gets lost in the discussion of them having bad QB play. Its a bit inflated by playing Miami twice without Tua, Chicago without Fields, and New England twice.
     
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  21. TheHighExhaulted

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    Ask any Jets fan, they will tell you the same thing:

    The Jets defense is good but they never come up with the big turnover and always fall flat in the 4th quarter.

    They will be playing some better competition this year, not a bunch of backups and third string quarterbacks.

    The target is on their back with the way everyone is fawning over them. NFL Network was disgusting last night during the schedule release show. It was basically a three hour Jets infomercial.
     
  22. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Why would the Bills lose Allen for any real length of time?
     
  23. Unlucky 13

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    Any player can be hurt. Someone else mentioned that if he were injured, the division was up for grabs.
     
  24. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    I guess that could be said about any team though, except maybe the 49ers. Losing your QB is a massive deficit. Some teams though are much more likely to lose theirs to injuries than others.
     
  25. Unlucky 13

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    Hopefully it's Buffalo's turn.
     
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  26. Fireland

    Fireland Well-Known Member

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    He is very durable but its going to happen eventually. He takes way too many hits.
     
  27. Tuanon4Life

    Tuanon4Life Well-Known Member

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    I never wish anything bad on anyone purely because of karma. That being said it's only a matter of time before Josh Allen goes down. He plays reckless and takes a lot of hard shots using his legs to extend plays.
     
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  28. Unlucky 13

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    It's absolutely going to catch up with him. I also fully expect him to have a pretty severe drop in effectiveness in his early 30s, similar to what happened to Cam Newton.
     
  29. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    It happens to EVERY quarterback! Marino at the time was the Ironman of quarterbacks and it was a torn Achilles that took him out.

    It doesn’t always have to be an opposing defense knocking the quarterback out of the game.

    That said, Allen does take quite a few hits. He’s a big kid but sooner or later one of those hit may take him out.
     
  30. Unlucky 13

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    Yup. Go through the list of notable QBs who's game was built around moving around and taking open field hits, and nearly every single one of them starts missing 3 to 6 games a season once they reach their late 20s. And then it's a question of whether they then start to really fade off or are able to reinvent themselves as a pure pocket passer. I don't think Allen has option 2 in him.
     
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  31. djphinfan

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    apparently this needed to be pointed out for some lol, thank you for enlighting them.
     
  32. cbrad

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  33. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    Yes, he was the outlier. And he was also horribly addicted to pain killers in the process.
     
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  34. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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  35. Pauly

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    The top 5 QB starts according to this:
    https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/top...nsecutive,Peyton Manning ... 5 #5. Matt Ryan
    are
    Brett Favre - 297
    Philip Rivers - 240
    Eli Manning - 210
    Peyton Manning - 208
    Matt Ryan - 154

    Dan Marino’s streak is officially 95 because he sat out the player’s strike in 1987, but if you disregard the strike it’s 145.

    You notice that after Favre the list is all pure pocket passers, and even Favre only averaged 2.0 rushing attempts per game, with a high of 3.6 attempts per game in 1993 and 1997. In the second half of his career he was a pure pocket passer. Allen is currently averaging 7.1 attempts per games.
     
  36. cbrad

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    321 for Favre includes playoffs. But it's a good point that there are two other exceptions: Rivers and Eli (the one game Eli missed in 2017 was a benching). So a total of 3 exceptions it seems.
     
  37. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    If he played in the modern era he would have missed a few games due to the concussion protocol. He suffered a few during his playing days.
     
  38. Pauly

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    If he played in the modern era he would have taken far fewer cheap shots to the head too.
     
  39. Unlucky 13

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    Hard to tell with Favre whether he was concussed or just his normal self. :chuckle:
     
  40. Fishhead

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    A statement that is still true to this day, lol
     

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