Fleener or Stephen Hill

Let's get Tannehill some playmakers.

while we could use another pass rusher I don't see it as the dire need that some do. Most teams aren't even lucky enough to have a guy like Wake. We already have one great pass rusher. Two is great, but not a necessity. And last I checked there will be other drafts. The value now is in the skill guys. Let's get the best

 

I do not want to give up one of the third. I think Miami can get good value there.

 

It was costing a 4th round pick to move up ~6 spots in late rd 1. Why would it take a 3rd now? I wouldn't part with that much, heck no.

 

I think that staying put will be the right decision, unless there is a player that ireland believes is leaps above the rest of the prospects. I personally think that one of the players we want will be available at 42. Reuben Randle, Cody Fleener, Courtney Upshaw, Vinny Curry are who I would be targeting, I am not a fan of a Stephen Hill pick.

Btw, I dont think its gonna cost as much as you think to move up.

 

IF it didn't cost much Fleener. A good TE can be a quarterbacks best friend

 

I've seen Randle mentioned alot, but isn't he more of a possession guy? Don't we have enough of those already and need more of a game breaker?

 

I think that he has really good game speed and really good acceleration, I think he can be a possession reciever as well as a deeper threat, Just IMO. I really like him.

 

Fleener. Look at Gronk and Hernandez. We need a playmaker at TE.

 

We got too many needs to afford a trade up.

Stay where we are and take Massie then go WR/DE in round 3. Take one of the TE's in 4 or 5.

 

Whichever team did that would be mentally handicapped....and that is offending the mentally handicapped.

 

Courtney Upshaw! or Fleener the gap between them and the others at their positions is bigger than Strahan's grill.

Plus one or two of these will be there at 71 and 72:
Stephen Hill
Alshon Jeffery
Rueben Randle
Muhamed Sanu
Chris Givens
Marvin McNutt
Marvin Jones
Ryan Broyles
Nick Toon
Devon Wylie

 

I'm surprised we didn't try to move up at the end of round 1. Tampa only swapped 4ths with Denver. And with us having an extra 3rd, I would of loved to move up to ensure Fleener...

 

I'd only give up that much for Upshaw.

Now, if you're talking about giving up pick #42 and the 4th round pick, I'd list Upshaw, Fleener, or one of the tackles between Jonathan Martin and Mike Adams.

But, Upshaw would be my primary target regardless.

 

I think Ireland said he tried but the teams were reluctant.

 

I want jenkins bad was praying so the pats wouldn't take him at 31 last night

 

Alshon Jeffery...

He's gonna be a stud. I wouldn't mind though sitting at 42 and taking Vinny Curry, then going after 2 WRs in the 3rd (ie. Streeter, Givens, Jones, Broyles, etc...)

 

Not a possession guy, far more of an all around player than that.

 

He obviously didn't try to hard. Denver was willing to. For pretty damn cheap as well.

 

It wasn't for the TE.

Ireland was trying to nab the free falling DeCastro imo. If the Steelers hadn't nabbed him I think Miami might have pulled something off to get him at 26 to get him.

The beat reporters mentioned that Ireland rushed back to the room and it was right at the time when in the Club Level chat noticed he was sliding (considering folks were trying to tell me he wouldn't make it to 14-16 if we traded down).

 

watching the limited highlights of stephen hill he looks nasty but he's kind raw and has a small build for his height.

 

I dont have a draft point chart but could we trade with SL for the 1st 2nd rounder and give up our second and fourth? I would think that with both Jefferies and Hill available SL might be ok trading down. We could then get Quick and an OLB/DE in the 3rd.

 

The Pats first trade up cost them a late 3rd, then the next one cost a late 4th. They jobbed the Broncos IMO.

 

Back in the 1990s, Bobby Beathard traded his next year's 1st straight up for a current year's 2nd. He did that 2-3 times as I recall.

 

I'd like to pick upshaw here... and wait for dwayne allen in the third possibly. I'd just like a pash rusher over a TE right here.

 

Based on the draft value chart, an equal trade up to 33 for us would be the swap of the second rounds, and we would have to give up our 4th and 7th rounders.

 

Fleener is my first choice however we could pull it off. Other than that, take the best pass rusher available at 42 and then take 2 WRs in the 3rd, or a one WR, a RT in the 3rd, and another WR in the 4th.

 

That is how Jimmy Johnson got Pat Surtain

 

It caught up with him at some point. One notable player he got that way was Natron Means.

 

That's a misconception because of randles frame. I thought that too until I watched video and he can run man. He creates separation and has good hands. His route tree seemed somewhat limited but I'm sure he can expand that as it seemed like a function of LSU offense. He's a vertical player all the way though.

I don't see that one player to move up for at the cost of a 3rd but if I thought buffalo was taking any of Jeffery, Randle or Andre Branch id give a 4 to leapfrog them.

 

He made the trade before the 1st round even started that year. I remember them announcing Miami had traded their next year's 1st to Carolina for their 1998 2nd rounder. I was hoping JJ was going to use it on Brian Kelly from USC. Shows what I knew.

 

I think Clay could play FB for that matter, and Fleener has a much more unique skill set and triangle numbers. I envision him as doing the same thing for his future team as Graham and Gronkowski do. The upside for Clay IMO would be about Dustin Keller, which isn't bad, but just not as dynamic as what I think Fleener could offer.

 

Really? I think Clay is much more dynamic than Fleener.

 

That's nice.

 

I respectfully disagree, not to mention the HUGE size difference!!