Im just curious what everyone is foreseeing for our offensive skill players this year compared to how they performed last year. So looking at their 2009 stats, do you think they will do BETTER or WORSE this year?
QBs name comp/att comp% yds td/int rating yds/g
Chad Henne 274/451 60.8% 2878 12/14 75.2 208 yds/g
BETTER - playing a whole year, with better options, he'll improve.
Pat White 0/5 passing 21/81 rushing 0 tds
BETTER - god, how can he get worse? all he needs is one completion.
WRs name receptions/targets/yards average tds
Brandon Marshall 101/154/1120 11.1 10
WORSE - He'll be great, but i just need to see a Miami WR get 100 catches before i believe it. 10 tds? gosh that'll be great. but color me cautious.
Davone Bess 76/113/758 10.0 2
WORSE - He was our #1 WR last year, and with BMarsh his stats will go down.
Greg Camarillo 50/71/552 11.0 0
WORSE - He'll also be affected by BMarsh and an improved Hartline, pushing him down to #4 WR.
Brian Hartline 31/56/506 16.3 3
BETTER - Hartline seemed to improve as the season went on and he got comfortable with Henne. I expect that to continue, plus without Ginn, he may become our only big play receiver.
RBs name rush attempts/yards avg td pass att/targets/yards td
Ronnie Brown 147/648 4.4 8td 14/20/98 0td
BETTER - Give him a whole healthy season, this man will go to the probowl; its that simple.
Ricky Williams 241/1121 4.7 11td 35/53/264 2td
WORSE - As a number two back, he won't sniff 1400 yards and 13 tds. but anything close would be great.
Lousaka Polite 37/123 3.3 0 11/23/51 0td
WORSE - how could he get any better? I wish there was a 'SAME' option, but that would be an easy way out of making the difficult decision. Im just going with odds here, folks. however 11 catches out of 23 targets does leave room for improvement.
TE name catches/targets/yards td
Anthony Fasano 31/54/339 2td
BETTER - This might be the hardest to gauge, but the homer in me is seeing no less than his 339 yards, and at least more than 2 tds.
In conclusion, I'm surprised how many players I think will have a worse year in 2010, but that's what happens when you add a new #1 WR and your #1 RB returns from injury - it pushes everyone's production down a rung on the ladder. Overall, I think our offensive production will be BETTER this year: more yards, more touchdowns, and a better Chad Henne. So its a good thing.
Your thoughts?
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dolfan7171 likes this.
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Wow, just reading this it made me feel bad for our offense :sad:.
I Agree with everything but Bess and Luey P.
The Wide Davone bess will benefit from having B. Marsh on the field w/ him
Marsh does command double team and the thing with double teams are that there's always someone open.
I Dont think Luey P. is gonna regress, he will probably just be used less. but if he can do what he did last year we will all be happy. PRO BOWL!dolfan7171 likes this. -
Henne stands to have a much better year, Marshall not so much, he wont catch 100 balls in this offense, and if he does, we're probably not having a good year.
Joey Haynos might se a reduction in P.T. b/c our 3 wide set presents more problems than our 2TE set, and besides, theres no reason to take Lousaka out, he straight punishes people.
Fasano will benefit, Hartline/Camarillo will see single coverage on every snap, Bess should thrive it in the slot. Ronnie and Ricky should be on pitch counts, for obvious reasons. Overall, I dont see anyone killing it statistically, but the offesne as a whole looks much harder to stop. I dont forecast much of a change in Patrick Turner's numbers...dolfan7171 likes this. -
If anything i think Bess will be much better because the pressure of being our #1 WR will be taken off of him. I really think he will shine early in the year because everyone will be so focussed on marshall.
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Then numbers to compare is will Marshall improve on Ginn's numbers since that is in a sense who he is replacing...
Ted Ginn 38/78/454/11.9 1 TD
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I think Bess and Hartline's number will be better since Marshall is here. They will have more one-on-one opportunities down the field.
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I am 100% positive Henne will have a better year and I feel the same for Hartline and Bess...just maybe not statistically for the fact that Marshall will be getting most of the looks.
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cough, cough....Brandon Marshall isn't a big play receiver? that's a whole lot of money we just wasted then -
okay i see what you're saying. let me rephrase that as 'deep, vertical threat'. while bmarsh can make a big play with yac, he's not going to be catching any bombs. For proof, one needs to look no further than his downfield pass-catching metrics in 2008 and '09. Marshall's 8.5 combined vertical YPA total in that time frame ranks him 52nd out of the 57 receivers who saw 48 or more targets in each of the past two seasons (48 targets being the minimum bar for inclusion as a qualifier on the metric charts). It wasn't a matter of one poor season offsetting a good season, either, as Marshall's highest single-season ranking was 55th.
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You cant give him a healthy season. He doesnt stay healthy.
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watch Williams & Hartline this season on offense
they will explode onto the NFL scene
because: (1) the Orca-5 (2) an improved Henne
(3) & Marshall will push them over the top
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Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member
Actually I think Marshall will take away from Bess and Cammys' receptions. Remember, they are similar WRs. More of the crossing routes and short middle stuff will be going to Marshall than to Cammy and Bess. Hartline is the WR that has to have a breakout year for the benefits of Marshall to show thru completely. Sure, Marshall will get his catches, but this offense will progress moreso on how well Hartline does opposite him than what Marshall brings to the table, even tho he's a top 5 WR.