Alot has been said and written about Pat White, for myself I prefer to look at his play and make up my own mind about him.
The way Henning and Sparano are using Pat White has to be either the gutsiest or foolish that I've seen a backup Qb used, he came into the Titans game for the 2 pt conversion to tie the game...with 1:43 left in the game.
The radio announcers were moaning, Fouts and Engberg were moaning, even going so far as to say "he is checking his wrist band, he looks confused that is not a good sign"
White then hands off to Ricky W on the Jet Sweep and fakes a dive towards the endzone for the first successful two point conversion of the year.
They also put White into the Monday Night game with the Jets with 4 minutes left in the game and the Dolphins were behind in the score, why they do that I cannot imagine but it should be noted that White, by being placed in those situations, is gaining experience in playing during crunchtime football.
Game on the line, he has to make something happen, and not screw up in the process, and as of yet he has not muffed when it counted, quite the opposite he seems to do fairly well in those situations.
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It seems to be a pretty good system, Though I have to admit I cringed and started screaming at my TV when I saw Pat White come in for that 2pt conversion LOL2k5 likes this. -
it's good that he is gaining experience and maybe some confidence .... but he still has so far to go during this offseason. the good news is that we have a good OL - so it can afford bringing him along.
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Surprised is a nice way of saying what I was thinking, season on the line, and there is White out there in the WC...Mr. Stomach was not happy at that moment...:D -
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I think the coaching staff takes a degree of pleasure in ****ing with armchair OCs
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Seriously though, I'm of the thought that this is a developmental tool, crunchtime and putting White out on the field to see how he performs, that sort of pressure cannot really be duplicated in practice. -
Here's a good article posted today by David J Neal:
Link:
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/story/1398104.html
It seems as if Henne and everyone else is on board with the decisions to play Pat White just the way he has been throughout the season.padre31 likes this. -
Develop a young Qb prospect as a back up and trade bait down the road?
Why, that is like building Space Shuttles out of empty beer cans, it's absurd... :shifty:CashInFist likes this. -
if henne goes down thigpen will go in
white offers absolutely nothing to the passing game
he cant even complete a pass
we would be so one dimensional we would be laughed at by the opposing defense
you think we would just run white
ridiculous that you dont see this
even though white is listed as the #2 qb that would change quickly -
putting white in any football game at any point is a joke
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Er, wait a minute.NJFINSFAN1, Disgustipate and CashInFist like this. -
With the AFC East Division Championship on the line the entire season, do you REALLY think Parcells/Sparano/Ireland are trying to lose by playing Pat White???
C'MON MAN!!! :lol:GridIronKing34 and padre31 like this. -
I think its a good topic Padre..
Here's how i look at it...take for example the 2 point conversion..If they know there going to run the football in that type of situation, for one play, Pat white on the field actually makes the defense respect all elements of offense,Henne makes them respect the pass and run. Pat, regardless that he has not completed a pass, can throw the football {iam sure Pro Dcordinators know this},plus they have to respect him running the ball as well...It just makes the defense have to play honest ,because him being on the field involves more offensive scenarios for the D to deal with, giving the back that much more of advantage to convert......padre31 likes this. -
You're the one making that leap in definition, not me.
And yes, I do think that Ireland might say to Sparano, "Yo, Tone...try to have Dan get White in whenever you can, willya? Do me that solid, my *** is on the line here." :lol:padre31 likes this. -
Thigpen may well be better. But we won't ever know, as he is even activated for the game. If Henne has to use the bathroom, our fate rests in White's hands. No, matter what we believe, reality is that White is the #2 QB, he's not just listed there. The dynamics preclude that from happening, he will play Thigpen will sit, until at least the next week. -
http://www.nfl.com/inactives?week=15
I can't speak to Thigpen being inserted over White in the case of the emergency, just that it's possible without Tyler having to be active on gameday. -
Pat White then picks up his 1 yard, then they put Henne back in to score the TD. Me and every Dolphins fan around me pretty much thought the game was over when we saw White for the 2 point conversion. -
Henne is just saying what everyone want's to hear.
Henne has shown us that he does have that fire and desire and I want my QB to want to be out there in crunch time
and NOT say,"Yeah, it's ok if a rookie comes in and take snaps away from me...better yet come in when it's a crucial time and we are in the red zone...TOTAL BS
Can you imagine Marino being OK coming off the field
for a rookie in those game time situations...hell to the NO
CAN YOU IMAGINE A COACH PULLING MARINO IN SUCH A SITUATION...NEVER/EVER
Let's get away from this Pat White crap and get back to showing confidence in Henne in any situationPhinvader Bill likes this. -
White potentially presents a tremendous option to our offense
& this is the time to play him
(Thigpen will eventually be the backup of choice for the conventional offense)
Pat White will do what he does best, he'll run the SingleWing & SpreadOffense
wouldn't be too quick to sell White down the river, extremely talented
he has an excellent arm
(can make all the passes necessary to compete in the NFL)
has the running ability of a tailback
& is competent & well versed in the unconventional offense
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His job is to throw the ball. Not get advice, or opinions, or anything like that. I don't care if it was Dan Marino here, he should be shutting the **** up and throwing the ball, and whatever Pat White or Ronnie Brown going on is not his business. -
The fact is, the staff has put him in crunch time situations and he's responded.
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Total crap...
It comes down to
Who would you want on the field during crunch time
Pat White or Chad Henne...if you pick White you have less football knowledge than even I thoughtClick to expand...
Sorry but I don't look at players in a vaccuum the way you do. -
I want whoever the coaches think gives them the best chance to have a successful play in the current situation.
Sorry but I don't look at players in a vaccuum the way you do.Click to expand...
Coaches don't always make the best decisions and the coaches this year, particularly Henning, has proven to have gotten way to cute when it was absolutely unnecessary. (another example: end around the Bess against Jax) -
Total crap...
It comes down to
Who would you want on the field during crunch time
Pat White or Chad Henne...if you pick White you have less football knowledge than even I thoughtClick to expand... -
So you wanted Ricky Williams to throw a HB pass out of the WildCat at the goalline against Buffalo costing us 7 points. (we were running at 6 ypc that drive too).
Coaches don't always make the best decisions and the coaches this year, particularly Henning, has proven to have gotten way to cute when it was absolutely unnecessary. (another example: end around the Bess against Jax)Click to expand...
I don't mean I will follow without question, however when I dont see a player being used as a drawback, I wont mind him being on the field.