Wildcat = "annoying little gimmick"?

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DEDeof MovestofcaNew MemberOP
Oct 6, 2008, 05:07 PM

Looks like someone else has found a new way to whine about the wildcat offense, calling it "an annoying little gimmick that wouldn't be used by anyone who considers themselves a man". If he really doesn't want to see it again, maybe he should devise a way to counter it rather than trying to question the manhood of the Phins' coaches. After all, I thought the purpose in the NFL was to win games, not popularity contests.

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Coral ReeferCoral ReeferNew Member
Oct 6, 2008, 05:11 PM

"Deof Movestofca wrote:

Looks like someone else has found a new way to whine about the wildcat offense, calling it "an annoying little gimmick that wouldn't be used by anyone who considers themselves a man". If he really doesn't want to see it again, maybe he should devise a way to counter it rather than trying to question the manhood of the Phins' coaches. After all, I thought the purpose in the NFL was to win games, not popularity contests.

It "wouldn't be used by anyone who considers themselves a man"?

:lol:

What a tool.
Another idiot joins what is pretty much a laughable circus known as sports media. Such a silly comment it's pathetic.

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MuckMuckRetired Admin
Oct 6, 2008, 05:14 PM

Best of the comments....

DURR HURR IT'S A GIMMICK, DURR HURR (Muck edit: :lol:)

Calling a timeout right before the snap on a field goal is a gimmick. The Wildcat offense isn't a gimmick. If anything, it's much closer to the way that football was originally played. Gimmick? Pfft, please.

That's what the British said about firing from cover during the revolution...who won that one? WIns are wins...quite your whining.

:lol:

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pennphinfanpennphinfanForum Veteran
Oct 6, 2008, 05:18 PM

at least he's not saying the fins don't deserve to win. perhaps in a twisted way he is just trying to say that the only reason this formation works so well is because of ronnie brown, which i would completely agree with. ronnie is doing a great job reading the plays and making it work. i love it

finsmxfinsmxNew Member
Oct 6, 2008, 05:18 PM

I don't know about you guys but he's actually got a point there, not in the whole gimmick, lack of manhood bs, but on the things he says about Ronnie.

MuckMuckRetired Admin
Oct 6, 2008, 05:21 PM

"pennphinfan wrote:

at least he's not saying the fins don't deserve to win. perhaps in a twisted way he is just trying to say that the only reason this formation works so well is because of ronnie brown, which i would completely agree with. ronnie is doing a great job reading the plays and making it work. i love it

I think you gotta give the formation credit though.

No offense works without players. And some require a higher caliber player than others.

Not everybody can excel in the Wildcat. And as such, they probably wouldn't be calling it without Ronnie back there. IMO, it's no coincidence that the principles in the last offense to run it were Darren McFadden and Felix Jones.

We've run it what, 18 times the last two games? It's not a gimmick anymore. It's part of the offense.

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texanphinatictexanphinaticForum Veteran
Oct 6, 2008, 05:30 PM

Gimmicks dont score what, 6 TDs in 2 games. Or average over 10 YPC. Its a strategy and gameplan and formation that has, by all accounts, worked rather well.

Frankly I expect us to use it till it stops working. After that we might run it once or twice a game, maybe around the goal line area, but not much more than that. But it is an effective formation because it puts a hat on every defender. Whereas with a standard QB handoff, its a 10 on 11. So its tough to gameplan against.

MonstBlitzMonstBlitzForum Veteran
Oct 6, 2008, 05:40 PM

How does that guy have a job?

djphinfandjphinfanSupporter
Oct 6, 2008, 05:40 PM

How elementary and childish is this topic....All the offense is is ronnie running the ball with a man in motion..

Its not the freakin wildcat, its the brilliance and superior talents of #23..

Other teams are jealous and frustrated, its OUR OFFENSE and we are evolving into something special.

Something that is new will always get shot done because people are afraid of change.

This dweeb actually gave ronnie credit but his comments about men not running this offense is ignorant.

DisnardoDisnardoSupporter
Oct 6, 2008, 05:48 PM

"djphinfan wrote:

How elementary and childish is this topic....All the offense is is ronnie running the ball with a man in motion..

Its not the freakin wildcat, its the brilliance and superior talents of #23..

Other teams are jealous and frustrated, its OUR OFFENSE and we are evolving into something special.

Something that is new will always get shot done because people are afraid of change.

This dweeb actually gave ronnie credit but his comments about men not running this offense is ignorant.

I don't know if maybe its me...

but if you stop reading the article when he talks about being less of a man, you might be missing the point...

The writer IMO, is staing that Ronnie is the reason that we are scoring and being successfull, not the formation...

Though I don't think the "Wildcat" has much to do with the Dolphins being up 17-3 over the Chargers. Ronnie Brown is just good, no matter where he's getting the ball. It gets the rock to him quicker and gives him a head start at the line of scrimmage, but on any substantial gain he's had, the Chargers have missed a tackle, or Brown has changed directions and made a play with his legs. Let's not insult Ronnie Brown by giving the formation too much credit.

I mean he plainly says we are winning not because of gimmick plays but by the good play execution of our players...

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Fin DFin DForum Veteran
Oct 6, 2008, 05:51 PM

"Disnardo wrote:

I mean he plainly says we are winning not because of gimmick plays but by the execution of our players...

How could we win if we executed all our players?:lol:

DisnardoDisnardoSupporter
Oct 6, 2008, 06:01 PM

"Finascious D wrote:

How could we win if we executed all our players?:lol:

OK...good one and missed it...:up: and fixed it...:tongue2:

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brandon27brandon27Supporter
Oct 6, 2008, 06:05 PM

gimmick??? :lol: its no different than any other play in the league, just a different personnel situation... I dont see the big deal. Its just like running any play, out of any formation. Its just not... traditional. Its different than what everyone else is doing... heaven forbid that happens in the NFL... Deal with it. learn to stop it. Thats the point of this game.


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KEkeypusherForum Veteran
Oct 6, 2008, 06:30 PM

It's really not gimmicky at all. It's a (pretty simple) power running formation that gets both Ronnie and Ricky on the field at the same time, and also gives Ronnie a chance to use his ability to read the defense and pick a spot. Kudos to our offensive staff, though, because football is all about giving your talented players a chance.

Since it isn't gimmicky, I don't expect some defensive coordinator to come up with some new twist that will instantly render it useless. Its main drawback to me is that neither Ronnie nor Ricky is much of a threat to throw the ball (despite Ronnie's nice toss to Fasano against NE), and the ball almost always goes to the right side. I expect at some point they will put Williams at the right wingback position and bring him in motion to the left.

djphinfandjphinfanSupporter
Oct 6, 2008, 06:36 PM

"Disnardo wrote:

I don't know if maybe its me...

but if you stop reading the article when he talks about being less of a man, you might be missing the point...

The writer IMO, is staing that Ronnie is the reason that we are scoring and being successfull, not the formation...

I mean he plainly says we are winning not because of gimmick plays but by the good play execution of our players...

i know right, but what the heck did he mean about being less then a man....iam gonna have to read the thing again

Jamester23Jamester23New Member
Oct 6, 2008, 06:46 PM

"djphinfan wrote:

How elementary and childish is this topic....All the offense is is ronnie running the ball with a man in motion..

Its not the freakin wildcat, its the brilliance and superior talents of #23..

Other teams are jealous and frustrated, its OUR OFFENSE and we are evolving into something special.

Something that is new will always get shot done because people are afraid of change.

This dweeb actually gave ronnie credit but his comments about men not running this offense is ignorant.

Exactamente. Instead of defending it, why don't we relish the fact that our team is doing something special that the rest of the NFL is copying.

It's been a sparse occurance in this decade.

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jdang307jdang307Supporter
Oct 6, 2008, 09:24 PM

The author is MJD. Who the heck is that?

it ain't maurice jones drew is it :D

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Oct 6, 2008, 09:30 PM

"jdang307 wrote:

The author is MJD. Who the heck is that?

it ain't maurice jones drew is it :D

Michael Jackson's dick?

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ALalen1New Member
Oct 6, 2008, 09:34 PM

:lol:

calphincalphinNew Member
Oct 6, 2008, 09:52 PM

"Deof Movestofca wrote:

Looks like someone else has found a new way to whine about the wildcat offense, calling it "an annoying little gimmick that wouldn't be used by anyone who considers themselves a man". If he really doesn't want to see it again, maybe he should devise a way to counter it rather than trying to question the manhood of the Phins' coaches. After all, I thought the purpose in the NFL was to win games, not popularity contests.

Better look again, Pats ran it VS S/F sunday:pity:


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unluckylucianounluckylucianoNew Member
Oct 6, 2008, 09:56 PM

"Finascious D wrote:

How could we win if we executed all our players?:lol:

no joke I knew bp was a tough guy but jesus.... I didn't think threat of death was how he got them to play so hard.

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FIfins4o8Forum Veteran
Oct 6, 2008, 10:34 PM

"calphin wrote:

Better look again, Pats ran it VS S/F sunday:pity:

what does it say when the team we destroyed ends up using in their next game and scores a TD on it?

Oct 6, 2008, 11:54 PM

Better look again, Pats ran it VS S/F sunday

Well thats different, Bellichick is a genius.:shifty:

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DEDeof MovestofcaNew Member
Oct 7, 2008, 03:02 AM

"jdang307 wrote:

The author is MJD. Who the heck is that?

If I had to guess, I'd say a frustrated SD fan based on the fact that he (or she?) found it funny when the Dolphins ran it successfully against the Patsies, but quickly changed his or her opinion of the play after this week's game. Although it's entirely possible that I could be wrong about that....

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late againlate againNew Member
Oct 7, 2008, 07:19 AM

What I object to is the context in which he (and others, as well) use the term "gimmick". As if calling the Wildcat Formation a gimmick play somehow denigrates what this team has done. .....
Sorry but no one plays heads up anymore. Every time anyone lines up there's some sort of wrinkle aimed at keeping the opposition off balance.