http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/columnists/armando-salguero/story/1418493.html
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Its worth pointing out that this is not the first time he has said he would like to come to Miami. I dont remember all the details but one of our posters was at a function with him 2 years or so ago and he talked about not liking the gap responsibilities he is forced to play in the Pats D. This was back when Saban was our coach and he liked Sabans D better, said he would like to play here.
Given that I am not an expert on NT alignments I dont know if the gap responsibilities we give now are the same as NE or not but it sounds like he would still like to come back home to Florida, something I think he said the other time too.
As to whether they will let him walk..... I dont know. They dont have a lot of vets left on that team but with their multiple second round picks maybe they feel they could let him walk and still improve that defensive line overall. Something they need to do if they want to not get bounced in the first round again next year.
And the article could indeed be right about him simply using us for leverage.dolfan7171 and jetssuck like this. -
hes dirty as ****......but hes a hometown boy. bring him to miami. iam for it.....
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He's almost certainly being franchised, for one.
Secondly, if he hit the open market, I'd not want them to play what he would cost for a guy who cannot contribute at all in passing situations.Kanye West, Trowa, djphinfan and 5 others like this. -
Randy Starks, Vince Wilfork, Kendall Langford.
That would be one HELL of a starting defensive line with solid depth in Phillip Merling and Paul Soliai.Trowa likes this. -
I like Wilfork, but I don't see it happening.
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I wonder how much cap money we are going to have to play with? Ronnie is a obviously a guy that we may or may not pay but who else needs a new contract?
KFFL has
Pennington
Ronnie
Bess
Fasano
JT
And a couple others like Will Allen and Ricky Williams who have already been given new deals.
Pennington is gone I would think unless he is willing to sign as a cheap backup, Ronnie will get some cash from someone, Bess is certainly a guy we want to keep, Fasano hasnt played well enough to get a major contract, and JT isnt going to demand a tone of coin I wouldnt think.
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If Albert Haynesworth Demanded a 100 million dollar 7 year contract, Just imagine how much Wilfork will demand in an uncapped year.....
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That is, if he doesn't sign a franchise tender.jetssuck likes this. -
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Lets keep in mind that the reason he got that massive contract it was because he was the best interior D line player in the league, and there wasnt even a close second.
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I would take him in a heartbeat, for once we could screw over the pats instead of them screwing us.
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I thought I remember him saying that he hated Miami when he came out? I remember an article or something where a bunch of U players were stating that they resented the Dolphins franchise for some reason or another?
Also, I haven't seen much of Wilfork this season. Is he still the force he was a few years back? What little I did see of him, he didn't stand out.MrClean likes this. -
home is where the heart is.
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What I am saying is there is a clear difference between a 4-3 Defensive Tackle and a 3-4 Nose tackle and until Haynesworth proves he can play the 3-4 Nose tackle at the level of a Vince Wilfork then one would have to give a decided Edge to Wilfork. -
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NOTE: Not to contradict myself but both Starks and McDaniel were forced to fill in at NT when Furg went down. I expect depth to be added at that position so that isn't the case in the future.Bpk likes this. -
Its also worth pointing out that most guys who end up at NT originally played 4-3 DT anyway as so few college programs run a 3-4 D... Though more do now then in the past.
Hell, Keith Traylor started in the NFL as a LB before he ate his way into NT status. Hard to believe but true.
My point being that NT isnt some magical position that you have to be born into and play all your career, its a position that any number of 4-3 DT have transitioned into.
And who knows, Heynsworth may get the chance in Washington if they switch to a 3-4 with their new coach. Though again, his injury history might be a concern.... Though its a concern regardless of what position he plays. NT seems to be a position you can play at for a long time though, Ferg is old for NFL standards and Traylor played until he was what? 38 or something?MrClean likes this. -
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Pretty much everyone runs a 1-gap 3-4 nowadays, where the NT is lined up as a 1-technique, the weakside DE as a 3-technique, and the strongside DE in kind of a variable position. The NT and Weakside DE positions are essentially the same alignment and responsibility as the two 4-3 DT positions.
Haynesworth has played his career as a 3-technique, but he's spent alot of time as a 1-technique too. There wouldn't be much of a transition at all for him to most 3-4 defenses. -
Naw he actually got creamed in that game if I remember correctly. There is a reason we quickly moved him to the DE position.FinsAreLife likes this. -
If he hits that market I would hope they'd sign him ASAP.
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I have found too that when you watch a game in real time you think a certain player did badly but when you get the emotion of the game out of the way and watch the tape again your opinion changes.
That being said I am not saying Starks would be a really good NT and a guy I want to start there. He could probably play the position, and would play it for us if our other guys there went down but he is far too effective as a DE for me to want him to switch positions. Dude should have went to the pro bowl. -
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No one will pay Wilfork that kind of money.
If he goes without the tag I could see Miami offering 8m a year or so for him. Wilfork would be even better as a 3-4 one-gap NT rather than a 3-4 two-gap player. I hate the fact that he made that dirty hit on Losman years ago that pissed me off. -
So for the record, does our current D have the same gap assignments as NE?
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No it does not but it fits Wilfork exceptionally well.
If you sign Wilfork chances are you force New England to draft a replacement which they've been very poor at in recent years. Their drafts have fallen off since 2005-2006 or so.
It might be worth the cost just to be able to put a 325LB hole straight in the middle of that New England. As for our defense, we'd have an indefinite upgrade in the middle of the line. Add a Karlos Dansby (I know it's big time money but Ross has the wallet) in the middle of the defense and we're a terrific run-stopping unit that's merely a draft away from fielding a top defense.dolphan117 likes this. -
I have a feeling that this years FA is going to be a ton of fun!
So much speculation! Uncapped year! Lots of Jrs. declaring for the draft! There are just so many variables into what every team will do. I cant wait! Throw in our staff coaching the SR bowl to get a jump on evaluating talent!
I need more exclamation points!!!!!!!!
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