Wow, I´m so pumped up after this....

"Alex13 wrote:

what a great video....watch and get pumped up too

http://www.miamidolphins.com/media/videos/2013-Training-Camp-Highlights-Week-1/bd890703-de48-40bf-af63-696e96d517df

Note to DJ...wake is on there shirtless for a couple of seconds...lol

also watch armon binns with the finsiders, that route he runs at 0:30.....what a beauty

http://www.miamidolphins.com/media/videos/Armon_Binns_This_Is_Fun/f5d33584-1a1f-47ed-9ae9-7b3a7d981681

- The team video guys learned a metric **** ton from the Hardknock guys.
- My god the old colors are effing hideous now. They need to burn all video from minis/otas
- I am officially on the the bandwagon of calling Tannehill, RTIII based on your sig.

Re: Wow, I´m so pumped up after this....

"Fin D wrote:

- The team video guys learned a metric **** ton from the Hardknock guys.
- My god the old colors are effing hideous now. They need to burn all video from minis/otas
- I am officially on the the bandwagon of calling Tannehill, RTIII based on your sig.

It looks like they upgraded their equipment more than anything.

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

It looks like they upgraded their equipment more than anything.

Looks like they learned a bit about some cinematography and editing to.

jeff fuller also made a nice catch in that video

"Fin D wrote:

- The team video guys learned a metric **** ton from the Hardknock guys.
- My god the old colors are effing hideous now. They need to burn all video from minis/otas
- I am officially on the the bandwagon of calling Tannehill, RTIII based on your sig.

First thing I thought when I watched it, "yes, we're doing our own Hard Knocks!"

"Claymore95 wrote:

First thing I thought when I watched it, "yes, we're doing our own Hard Knocks!"

and the more i think about it, the more i come to the conclusion...why the **** not ???

:up:

Re: Wow, I´m so pumped up after this....

"Fin D wrote:

Looks like they learned a bit about some cinematography and editing to.

Probably some but it's not like they were being coached by HBO. If they were lucky then maybe they were PAs during the show.

I'm sure they know what they are doing. But this video wouldn't be hard to replicate. Looks like a Canon 7D or 5D and a few primes with probably some sort of stabilizer system.

But hey, I do this for a living so it looks simpler to me. I'm just thankful the team utilizes media production like they do.

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

It looks like they upgraded their equipment more than anything.

Totally disagree. I worked in production for awhile, TV commercials then around comedy shows, and TV pilots... this is DEFINITELY using a LOT of HBO templat.

- the shot sequence
- the sped up exteriors at the beginning
- the low camera with up-angles at the players to crteate gladiator feel
- martial music with dramatic crescendo
- following helmets held in hands
- dripping sweat extreme closeups mixed with wide shots, great shot framing variety i the ratios and order of most HK openings
- voiceover style and timing
- storyline of a team coming together, positon battles, only 53 can make it is template HK
- I could go on for another ten piints and that's the point.
- wide angle lens shots (fish eye)
- personal moments between players

This is entirely emulated from HK. I'm impressed as hell.

Questions:

1) Are the Dolphins planning to do a longer, more in depth series over training camp and preseason? Our own mini-HK? I sure hope so.
2) Were Dee and Ross smart enough to have planned to accept HK because our internal video guys could study and learn with the HBO cameramen? I mean, that's brilliant. We are HBO-trained and I'd say we have the BEST multi-media department of any NFL team at this point (consider the Finsiders too).

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

Probably some but it's not like they were being coached by HBO. If they were lucky then maybe they were PAs during the show.

I'm sure they know what they are doing. But this video wouldn't be hard to replicate. Looks like a Canon 7D or 5D and a few primes with probably some sort of stabilizer system.

But hey, I do this for a living so it looks simpler to me. I'm just thankful the team utilizes media production like they do.

I'm sure there was conversations and watching and what not. It just seems night and day from stuff before Hardknocks came to town. Then again, I'm not in the industry like you.

"Alex13 wrote:

and the more i think about it, the more i come to the conclusion...why the **** not ???

The dolphin network...don't see why it wouldn't work...just need to get the rights from the NFL. I suppose

Oh, and yeah I saw the shot of wake Alex, it's so yesterday's news, but as you can see, the perfect football player..give him a raise.

Re: Wow, I´m so pumped up after this....

"Bpk wrote:

Totally disagree. I worked in production for awhile, TV commercials then around comedy shows, and TV pilots... this is DEFINITELY using a LOT of HBO templat.

- the shot sequence
- the sped up exteriors at the beginning
- the low camera with up-angles at the players to crteate gladiator feel
- martial music with dramatic crescendo
- following helmets held in hands
- dripping sweat extreme closeups mixed with wide shots, great shot framing variety i the ratios and order of most HK openings
- voiceover style and timing
- storyline of a team coming together, positon battles, only 53 can make it is template HK
- I could go on for another ten piints and that's the point.
- wide angle lens shots (fish eye)
- personal moments between players

This is entirely emulated from HK. I'm impressed as hell.

Questions:

1) Are the Dolphins planning to do a longer, more in depth series over training camp and preseason? Our own mini-HK? I sure hope so.
2) Were Dee and Ross smart enough to have planned to accept HK because our internal video guys could study and learn with the HBO cameramen? I mean, that's brilliant. We are HBO-trained and I'd say we have the BEST multi-media department of any NFL team at this point (consider the Finsiders too).

A lot of these shots are easier to replicate now thanks to the rise of video on DSLR. It was creative but not as ground-breaking as you're making it.

I would argue with you more but I'm on my phone. You said you used to work in production, but when did you stop out of curiosity?

Re: Wow, I´m so pumped up after this....

"Fin D wrote:

I'm sure there was conversations and watching and what not. It just seems night and day from stuff before Hardknocks came to town. Then again, I'm not in the industry like you.

They probably started planning things out more than anything. Pre-production is vital with stuff like this.

I am curious what their video team is paid though.

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

A lot of these shots are easier to replicate now thanks to the rise of video on DSLR. It was creative but not as ground-breaking as you're making it.

I would argue with you more but I'm on my phone. You said you used to work in production, but when did you stop out of curiosity?

I don't think saying they've learned to shoot and edit video like another entity already shooting and editing video that way is the same thing as saying something is groundbreaking. All we are saying is that after being around the HK guys, they are producing video similar to the HK guys.

Re: Wow, I´m so pumped up after this....

"Fin D wrote:

I don't think saying they've learned to shoot and edit video like another entity already shooting and editing video that way is the same thing as saying something is groundbreaking. All we are saying is that after being around the HK guys, they are producing video similar to the HK guys.

Just emulating their style is what it looks like. Based on music videos and stuff they've done, I think they always had the skill set needed to produce the content. It probably just took HK to show them how much planning goes into it and a few techniques (timelapses and slow motion video primarily) can go a long ways.

"Alex13 wrote:

and the more i think about it, the more i come to the conclusion...why the **** not ???

I'd pay $20 for an in-house version of Hark Knocks, even if it was a propaganda machine

Loving the redzone fade to Binns.....dude might make it happen here, fellas!

"SICK wrote:

Loving the redzone fade to Binns.....dude might make it happen here, fellas!

a certain local news reporter already has him as a lock to make the team.

"Paul 13 wrote:

a certain local news reporter already has him as a lock to make the team.

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

A lot of these shots are easier to replicate now thanks to the rise of video on DSLR. It was creative but not as ground-breaking as you're making it.

I would argue with you more but I'm on my phone. You said you used to work in production, but when did you stop out of curiosity?

Well, anything where they imitate something that exists isn't gonna be ground-breaking. I t think you look at it in the context of the quality of videos this team and other internal NFL video depts usually put out. A big leap for that kind of department.

In terms of the technological argument, to me that's like saying, this painting is not an imitation of Chagall because the paints used are available to lots of people. But if the way those paints are used produces something with the style and a dozen or more varaiables that imitate CHagall, then it goes beyond the media and equipment used, you know?

I stopped about two years ago, in terms of working with directors and writers and producers here. But my intensive period (where I was in the post suites a lot) was more 2001-2005. I'm sure a ton has changed in post effects and stuff (was just talking an editor about this on 4th of July weekend). It's amazing how much stuff advances so quickly now. The other thing I noticed the Phins doing better now is... if you watch their Training Camp preview with Jesse and Congemi, they've goosed the color some. Always used to do that when we shot in Miami to get nice popping blues for the water. In this case it's popping our aqaua and the blue eyes etc. They've gotten savvy about improving back end look and pic quality.

Still, I don't see how you could watch the first 3 minutes of any HK and then that Dolphins video and not say they are following a recipe card for shot selection, framing, lenses, pacing, music and V.O.

Though I agree, it's not revolutionary by any means.. except at Davie. lol.

"SICK wrote:

Armondo Binnsalguero?

"Fin D wrote:

- The team video guys learned a metric **** ton from the Hardknock guys.
- My god the old colors are effing hideous now. They need to burn all video from minis/otas
- I am officially on the the bandwagon of calling Tannehill, RTIII based on your sig.

He's not the 3rd though is he? I've never seen it anywhere else that he is. I see Wikipedia does now too. But heck, anyone could put it on there. I've just not seen it from any legit source.

That was awesome