This could be interesting if he gets in the game:
Couple receiver notes: Not only is Davone Bess still dealing with a back issue, but Brian Hartline is, too. Both missed practice Thursday. Receiver Chris Hogan -- who was nicknamed 7-11 during Dolphins training camp because (as Bush said) “he was always open,” -- was moved up to Buffalo’s 53-man roster, but it’s questionable if he will get any playing time against Miami on Sunday.
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I still think that we should have kept him.
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So do I, had a good feeling about that kid, still do.
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I am interested to see who really steps up this game if Bess and Hartline are out. I want to see Thigpen and Matthews be used more. That said, I am not expecting much of anything...
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Well it's a good thing the Pats didn't pick him up or he'd be a 1st ballot Hall of Famer.
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So playing Hogan would mean the Bills are attempting some kind of psy-op?
Feckin' Bills...I don't think there's been one time where I was like "ohhh, watch out for the Bills!" They beat us every year, and I still don't give a ****. Points to a jaded sense of entitlement I have with this organization.
This game holds the slightest of intrigue of having marginal playoff implications. However, for a purist like myself, this game will be fun to watch because of the lack of emotional investment.
If we somehow slingshot into the playoffs, my personality will be even more annoying...so conflicted.eltos_lightfoot likes this. -
Worse than Marlon Moore and Roberto Wallace?
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For how strong he was, he was pushed around so easily in games.
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That's too bad about Bess. I though he had a pretty good chance to get to 1,000.
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Found a better one.
Derek Hagan and Ted Ginn Jr. Ironically, also against Buffalo. -
Was that the 175 yard game Ginn had?
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Okay coach.
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He isn't very good.
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More worried about Mark Anderson playing.
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Bills may have had their eye on him for a bit, but thought its a good move to take him when we may need to put him on our 53 man due to dire shortage at WR.
nice timing to snooker us even more at WR. No Bess and No Hartline. Heck, could we even do a 3 WR formation?
Know what though? We don;t care. We still won't play Egnew in the passing game, no matter HOW few passing targets we have left! You can;t force our hand, Buffalo! You her me?! Egnew stays on the bench, no matter what!!!!
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Hope he kills us this week, we deserve it.
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shula_guy Well-Known Member
Did he ever get time on the field during preseason against a 1st string defense?
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Of course we should have.
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If he wasnt "featured" on hard knocks, nobody would care. So... really, why bother? Sure we need help at WR, but I highly doubt Chris Hogan was the answer.
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The flip side of that is that Hard Knocks gave a glimpse of how quick Hogan is and how sharply he cuts, which of course led teammates to call him uncoverable. Plus he's 6-2, 220, runs about a 4.45 and is one of the strongest WRs in the draft, benching 220 lbs something like 28 times. If other Dolphins WRs had that kind of talent we probably wouldn't be considered in dire need of talent at the position. We of course went instead with Naane, Anthony Armstrong and Jabar Gafney. That didn't work out too well.
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I'm pretty certain if you didn't tell me that was Chris Hogan I'd think those physical stats were for Legedu Naanee.
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Except for the bench press. The most important part of the Hard Knocks coverage was getting the chance to see Hogan cut and his change of direction, that's what was special and led to the "uncoverable" label. I would have liked to keep him, especially given our talent drain at the position. Some of Hogan's cuts were remarkable, a skill probably developed while playing college lacrosse. Our receivers tend to just fall down more often than make remarkable cuts.
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Chris Hogan is unusually quick for his size and generally speaking I love when a player clearly has the respect of his peers which Hogan unquestionably does. That goes a long way with me.
However when watching him play in the preseason I was a little disturbed by A) The fact that he's so big and strong yet with the exception of one play in preseason he was easy to tackle with very little after contact yardage, B) How he reacted to the football in the air wasn't very savvy for a receiver, C) Had trouble dealing with physical coverage especially at the line.
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So I'm clear, it was travesty to get rid of Hogan because he benches a lot, but on the field during an actual game, he sucked against 3rd stringers, plus the 5 total minutes of heavily edited tape you saw on him by Hard Knocks gives you greater insight into his ability than the professional coaches that were there? That's your stance?
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I really liked what this guy brought to the team and practices. Disappointing we couldn't have found a way to keep him.
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I don't recall Hogan getting a lot of balls thrown his way in the preseason games. Practice reports indicated that he looked very good through the preseason. Regardless, he's shown enough to be on the Bills 53 now. I'd take that potential over what the Dolphins 3rd WRs have done in games, which is next to nothing. I'm still hopeful regarding Rishard Matthews but the rest are forgettable.
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That is because in games he couldn't get open. He looked terrible in preseason games.
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He beat out Naane, Jabar Gaffney and Roberto Wallace in getting on an NFL roster, so apparently he's been doing something right. If he succeeds it wouldn't be the first time that Miami waived a player that went on to contribute to a division rival. I'm curious to see how he does with Buffalo.
The point is, by most accounts Hogan performed well in practice and was well respected by teammates for his ability to consistently get open. A few plays in the preseason doesn't change that. If he was a stiff he'd be waiting for the phone to ring like the 3 unemployed WRs I mentioned earlier. The Naane debacle was a judgement error by the coaches, as in rating Naane at or near the top of the WR rankings, and then in the real games- there was a guy who pretty much defined looking terrible and not being able to get open. The coaches praised him regularly, then he turned out to be Ernest Wilford 2.0.
In hindsite, even as a matter of default, I would have preferred Hogan. At least he's an unknown quantity- Naane proved that he blows. I would have rather taken the chance on talent, same with Clyde Gates. So we kept Naane and Marlon Moore and waived Hogan before Wallace. I doubt that the FO would do it the same way if they were given a second chance. -
Yet he lost to Nannee when it came to head to head battle.
We kept Moore because he played well on special teams. Which would have been Hogan's best way to make the team.
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The coaching staff chose Naane over Hogan. You can judge Hogan by that, or you can look at the fact that Hogan was signed to the Bills practice squad and now is on their 53 man roster. Naane, on the other hand, has been unemployed since the Dolphins realized that they misjudged him and dumped him early in the season. So between Naane and Hogan, in terms of how their careers are going this year, who is winning that battle? I would say Hogan.
I like Jeff Fuller, but as to the rest you can cut it any way you want. The Dolphins chose at least 3 WRs over Hogan that are out of football. So why is Hogan on a roster and the others aren't? Maybe because the Dolphins players were right and he's good at creating separation and getting open. We'll see how he does with the Bills,jdang307 likes this.
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