Hmmm...if lazor kills it and gets a hc job immediately I'm going to be so pissed

 

Charlie Clay was practicing with a knew brace on today..

Amazing what can happen when a coordinator uses the entire skillset of your Qb. And utilizes the read option doing so.

 

Hopefully it's our HC job.

 

wow man a lot of **** has to come down before this happens, i think philbin only goes if the team is not improved from last year, which would mean 9-7 and probably even playoffs, if we
don´t get that, that would mean the offense hasn´t performed up par, which will not look very good on Lazor´s resume, so i doubt this could happen, Jim Harbaugh or Gus Malzahn or BUST

 

Yeah, that's the hard part. Loyalty would dictate that you have to fire Philbin first and then ask Lazor to take the job, but if he says no, you're up the creek. If Lazor puts a great offense on the field, why take his attention away from it by promoting him to HC? Just pay him more.

 

This is just going around in circles: There is reason to fire Philbin if, like CK said, he's supposed to be an offensive guru, who had a poor offense until Lazor came along. Also, if Lazor is responsible for Miami's success and garnering attention for HC positions, you don't let him get away just because he helped Philbin to a good record.

 

Barring an unbelievably bad season (6 wins or worse), I believe Ross is committed to this front office and coaching staff through the 2015-2016 season.

 

Lolz. Is this real life, or have we entered into the Bizarro world?

 

Miami's offense would have to be top 10 for that to happen.

 

Yeah it does not make a lick of sense to fire Philbin just to keep Lazor from going elsewhere, if he's so highly coveted that would mean we did something special. Which means Philbin shouldn't be fired.

 

I think it's far more realistic that Lazor is retained as an OC by a new head coach than it is he gets a job here or elsewhere as a head coach.

If he does a good job, he's likely a very palatable option to defensive head coaches or guys from WCO-based backgrounds.

ps fire Philbin, out of a ****ing cannon if necessary.

 

Eh saying Philbin is an offensive genius is too much for me after he sat by and watched Sherman destroy ours.

 

Defense collapses. If Lazor moves our offense from the bottom rung Philbin had it, to the middle or top, but our defense collapses and we have a crappy season, Philbin could still be on the hot seat.

Another scandal would hurt too.

Offensive genius who didn't design the offense or call plays. He game planned. He didn't even get involved with shaping Rodgers. He game planned. That was about it. And it was painfully obvious the first two years here.

 

It's happened before. Our defense was meh last year but scoring wise (for a multitude of reasons) it matched our offensive output and was pretty good (hence 8-8).

The one thing you can say about the NFL is there is no sure thing.

 

Na I don't think so. Our offense was terrible last year so why wouldn't Philbin help fix it if he's this offensive genius?

Hard to imagine someone w that level of skills sitting by and watching us make ******ed offensive decisions over and over again, but it happened.

 

Adapt or die.

 

He wouldn't even have to get rid of him if he helped him to fix it last season. He either didn't try to or what they attempted fell on it's face.

Like I said, I'd expect an offensive genius would be able to improve his own and not watch it completely disintegrate.

I mean are you really that surprised that nobody would question calling Philbin an offensive genius? Sounds ridiculous.

 

No, I don't. I don't throw the word genius around. Shula was a great coach.

Again, nobody said that so stop making it up.

And we have proof that Philbin was pushing for and responsible for bringing Lazor in? As I said, I'd think someone w the title offensive genius would of fixed or at least improved it last season before losing the post-season in spectacular fashion. We all saw the offense was **** and needed to be at least tweaked and it seemed nobody did **** about it til after the season was over.

 

Philbin is entirely accountable for the decision to hire his friend. The team suffered because he was unable/unwilling to intervene in a critical fashion, and would continue to suffer if Philbin was not pressed to fire Sherman. That's ultimately a negative mark.

It is even more problematic when you consider that taking a big-picture, managerial style role was essentially supposed to be Philbin's strengths.

 

I remember in early 2012 when we were 4-3 a lot of people were worried about losing Sherman as our offensive coordinator. Some people even wished he was our head coach at the time, and preferred promoting him instead of losing him to another team.

I swear, if some of you backseat owners ever had the chance to run the team you would make the Jacksonville Jaguars look like the greatest run franchise in the history of sport. Lazor would go from QB coach immediately to head coach based off a presser and fired after starting 0-1 and giving a bad post-loss presser...

Oh and the Seattle Seahawks had the 29th ranked defense in Carrolls first season there so I suppose he should have been fired at the time? And he didn't even have to deal with a ball and chain for a GM, aka Jeff Ireland. Joe Philbin will go as Ryan Tannehill goes. I know you guys all think Tannehill is being held back by poor coaching but its entirely possible the opposite is true too.

 

Yea, as you're making up my criteria for me lol

I disagree w your statement of Philbin being an offensive genius and I think he's a mediocre to bad HC thus far. That's all I'm gonna say. Nor have I seen anything that says he pushed for Lazor.

 

Unless he replaces Philbin.

No clue what bizarre scenario would make that possible though.

 

Philbin is not an offensive genius, not even close, never was, never will be.