https://sports.yahoo.com/team-made-...ng-nfls-eight-new-head-coaches-141303628.html
our coach is rated #1 coaching hire by yahoo sports, I know it doesn't mean much but I think its good Pub for the common fan, I liked this quote..
''The entire league is looking for the next McVay, and the Dolphins landed the guy who figured out McVay’s offense in a Super Bowl.''
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I liked this one too.
6. Adam Gase, New York Jets — Gase went 23-25 as Dolphins coach, never lived up to his reputation as an offensive genius and his time in Miami was marked with weird decisions.
Someone out there besides us was paying attention!
Comes in 6th out of 8 hires ahead of Klingsbury and a very confusing to me hire of Zac Taylor in 8th.resnor likes this. -
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I know, I know, McVay. Well his coaching tree didn't look so hot in the Super Bowl. But it seems to me that Taylor is only slightly more qualified to be a head coach than the guy that follows McVay around on the sideline keeping him from being crushed! -
But, it's the Bengals. Their ownership (among others) is why I always look at the anti-Ross crowd with a healthy dose of skepticism.resnor and Tin Indian like this. -
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I admit that I'm higher on Dalton relatively speaking then everyone else so I think that position will be steady for him in the beginning but I'm happy they aren't in the market. -
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https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DaltAn00.htm
The guy is basically average.. kind of like Tannehill, except that we KNOW how Dalton performs in the playoffs: abysmal.Hooligan, PhinFan1968, texanphinatic and 2 others like this. -
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56% comp, 621 yds, 3 td, 4 int, 5.3 y/a, 2.5 TD%, 3.4 INT%, 65 QB Rating (Palmer, McCarron, Kitna)
55.7% comp, 873 yds, 1 int, 6 int, 5.5 y/a, 0.6 TD%, 3.8 INT%, 57.8 QB Rating (Dalton)
The highest QB rating for a Bengal QB during the Marvin Lewis era is by McCaron with 68.3. Dalton went 0-4 as you said but the other 3 QB's who have played a playoff game went a combined 0-4.
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But even if you ignore sample size the problem is that there isn't only one thing that's remained constant: Palmer and Kitna both had postseason games with other teams. Kitna posted a 46.8 rating in the 1999 playoffs with Seattle, which is a 48.6 rating in 2005 numbers, that you can compare to the 60.1 rating he had with Cinci in 2005. Similarly, Palmer had a 67.1 rating in the 2015 playoffs with Arizona, which is a 61.7 in 2009 numbers, compared to the 58.3 he had with Cinci in 2009.
So even ignoring sample size (which one shouldn't), for both QB's it's hard to argue Marvin Lewis had much of an impact. And let's not forget Kitna and McCarron were both backups so that adds another dimension. You're right though that these overall playoff stats belong to Marvin Lewis as well so it's certainly something to consider. -
Guys I was just making a point about how Zac Taylor and Dalton had a bromance in the locker room, It pertained to the Idea that our staff will have a better shot at a Qb if we want one..
Can we not bring tannehill and dalton into the debate, (I’m guilty as well)Tin Indian and Surfs Up 99 like this. -
Also both of them have had fairly similar careers to the type of career Matt Ryan was having before Dan Quinn became the HC of the falcons. Matt Ryan has showed at least something in the playoffs before Dan Quinn though. -
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Yahoo definitely hit the nail on the head here. I don't know if any of you follow Walter Cherepinsky on walterfootball, but his writeup on the Flores-Gase situation was laughable. This guy has excellent NFL connections which makes him a great draft insider, but beyond that, his thoughts on what it takes to achieve NFL success are usually way off-base.
Here's what he said about the firing of Gase:
"Dolphins fire HC Adam Gase: F- - - - - - - - - - - - Grade
Wow. WOW. WOW!!!!!!!! I can't. I just. I just can't.
Look, I knew that Dolphins owner Stephen Ross was a complete buffoon like the rest of you, but I didn't realize that he was capable of this level of stupidity. Ross may have just cemented himself as one of the worst owners in not just the NFL, but the history of sports.
When Ross hired Gase three years ago, he called Gase the "next Bill Belichick." Let's analyze what transpired in those three years:
2016: Led the Dolphins to the playoffs despite them being quarterbacked by Ryan Tannehill.
2017: Saw the season derailed by Tannehill's preseason injury. Jay Cutler buried the team, yet Miami was oddly competitive in several games, finishing 6-10.
2018: Had the Dolphins in playoff contention late in the year despite the team being quarterbacked by Tannehill. The playoff hopes ended when Tannehill suffered an injury in the second quarter against the Patriots. Tannehill was never the same after that.
Why on Earth would you fire a head coach you thought was the next Belichick who had the team competitive for a playoff spot in both years he had his starting quarterback available!? Why in the world would you not allow the "next Bill Belichick" to have a chance to coach a team with a quarterback better than Tannehill!? The previous regime signed Tannehill to a 6-year, $95.2 million contract. Why was it Gase's fault he was stricken with a pedestrian starting quarterback all of these years!?
This is such an insanely stupid decision. I imagine the other NFL teams are laughing at Ross and the Dolphins right now. In fact, teams are already hurrying to schedule interviews with Gase. It sounds like the Browns are highly interested in hiring Gase, and doing so would be a terrific move. I can't wait to see Gase coach up Baker Mayfield. And he'll be able to do so because Ross is one of the worst sports owners anyone has ever seen."
Then, he gave the Jets an 'A+' for their hiring of Gase, and a 'D' for ours of Flores. Yikes, but hey, this is also the guy who gave the Sean McVay hire a 'C-' and the Hue Jackson hire a 'B+'.resnor and Tin Indian like this. -
For the first time in a long time I feel cautiously optimistic.Lets go Fins!Brasfin, djphinfan, Tin Indian and 1 other person like this. -
I'm sorry...I'm quite confused hereBrasfin, thetylernator, Nappy Roots and 2 others like this. -
...Gase wanted Tannehill...Gase wanted Cutler...Gase didn't coach some horrible roster like some believe to a playoff spot.
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I'm pleased that the move is getting praised but it doesn't really mean all that much. How many times did our free agency moves have pundits waxing lyrical about us over for us to go .500? I'm intrigued by where we're going as a franchise but it's not because someone at Yahoo sports started talking about us.
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