Yankees trade Montero for Pineda

They also signed Hiroki Kuroda, apparently they are looking for another bat.

"BleedinGreenNC wrote:

They also signed Hiroki Kuroda, apparently they are looking for another bat.

Heard Damon could be in play.

Signing Kuroda is a brilliant. Great #4 starter/insurance in case Nova regresses. It also minimizes the reliance on Burnett. Burnett should be gone and Hughes the #5.

Montero for Pineda was a great move by Cashman. Basically traded a power bat with no position and no available playing time for a RH version of CC and a better fastball.

"Boik14 wrote:

Heard Damon could be in play.

Signing Kuroda is a brilliant. Great #4 starter/insurance in case Nova regresses. It also minimizes the reliance on Burnett. Burnett should be gone and Hughes the #5.

Montero for Pineda was a great move by Cashman. Basically traded a power bat with no position and no available playing time for a RH version of CC and a better fastball.

Excellent post! Last i heard they were trying to bring in Pena, i really see Burnett getting traded. With the contract of Pineda, we could eat the hit we would take by trading AJ

Who gives a ****...its baseball. Don't they let girls play that game now?

"Puka-head wrote:

Who gives a ****...its baseball. Don't they let girls play that game now?

And women play football too. Thanks for the mature response.

"FreeStyle wrote:

Yeah but they wear Lingerie.......:shifty:

Exactly!!!

"BleedinGreenNC wrote:

Excellent post! Last i heard they were trying to bring in Pena, i really see Burnett getting traded. With the contract of Pineda, we could eat the hit we would take by trading AJ

Two things:

One: Eduardo Nunez deserves a shot to hit everyday at some point. If I were a NYY fan I might go for that option over Pena.
Two: Bay for Burnett makes a hell of a lot of sense. Two players that need a change of scenery in a bad way. Garcia would still be an emergency starter. Mets need inning eaters bad and should have Kirk Nuewhenhaus (Sp is butchered) ready by mid May.

As a Yankee fan, I liked Montero but it was a good trade. Pitching was my main concern this year.

Excellent trade. Montero could not have been a longtime DH in NY with ARod and Jeter aging, and the Yanks have an above-average guy is Russell Martin, an average backup in Cervelli, a great defensive prospect in Austin Romine and a very raw but promising prospect in Gary Sanchez. Montero was truly a luxury.

Pineda shows all the signs of becoming an ace and the Campos kid was a top 5 prospect in the Seattle system. The Yanks still have Betances and Banuelos in their farm system, so they kept their top arms. I really like how Cashman is emphasizing the pitching heree. The Yankee starting rotation (plus Kuroda) is nasty now.

That DH spot is up for grabs this year (maybe Carlos Pena for a year). Next season ARod will probably man it full time, just in time for David Wright to opt out from the Mets. Interesting.

If it was my money, I'm bring in Manny Ramirez as a one year DH.

I always thought Montero got much more pub than he deserved.

"pocoloco wrote:

Excellent trade. Montero could not have been a longtime DH in NY with ARod and Jeter aging, and the Yanks have an above-average guy is Russell Martin, an average backup in Cervelli, a great defensive prospect in Austin Romine and a very raw but promising prospect in Gary Sanchez. Montero was truly a luxury.

Pineda shows all the signs of becoming an ace and the Campos kid was a top 5 prospect in the Seattle system. The Yanks still have Betances and Banuelos in their farm system, so they kept their top arms. I really like how Cashman is emphasizing the pitching heree. The Yankee starting rotation (plus Kuroda) is nasty now.

That DH spot is up for grabs this year (maybe Carlos Pena for a year). Next season ARod will probably man it full time, just in time for David Wright to opt out from the Mets. Interesting.

If it was my money, I'm bring in Manny Ramirez as a one year DH.

I never even thought of bringing in Manny, would be interesting. I would love for Wright to be with the Yankees!!

"BleedinGreenNC wrote:

I never even thought of bringing in Manny, would be interesting. I would love for Wright to be with the Yankees!!

FML. I swear Ive never considered switching teams in any sport...Ive had the Mets Knicks, Phins, Islanders, Miami Hurricane Football and Syracuse basketball since I was 7 or younger. But if Wright goes and declines his option just to get out of dodge, I might have to consider becoming a NYY fan. That like the Yanks letting Jeter and Bernie walk in their primes.

"Boik14 wrote:

FML. I swear Ive never considered switching teams in any sport...Ive had the Mets Knicks, Phins, Islanders, Miami Hurricane Football and Syracuse basketball since I was 7 or younger. But if Wright goes and declines his option just to get out of dodge, I might have to consider becoming a NYY fan. That like the Yanks letting Jeter and Bernie walk in their primes.

With the way the team is being run right now, i wouldnt be surprised if he did decide to leave, the Mets just waived one of their best prospects and the Astros picked him up. Fernando Martinez.

"BleedinGreenNC wrote:

With the way the team is being run right now, i wouldnt be surprised if he did decide to leave, the Mets just waived one of their best prospects and the Astros picked him up. Fernando Martinez.

I'm pretty sure he used to be a top prospect.

"BlameItOnTheHenne wrote:

I'm pretty sure he used to be a top prospect.

Ok, used to be, bad choice of words on my part.

"Boik14 wrote:

FML. I swear Ive never considered switching teams in any sport...Ive had the Mets Knicks, Phins, Islanders, Miami Hurricane Football and Syracuse basketball since I was 7 or younger. But if Wright goes and declines his option just to get out of dodge, I might have to consider becoming a NYY fan. That like the Yanks letting Jeter and Bernie walk in their primes.

FWIW, just read on Espn that the Yankees might be looking for a team to trade Burnett to, Mets came up.

Yankees make the trade? Oh, wow. No way; cool story, bro!

"BleedinGreenNC wrote:

With the way the team is being run right now, i wouldnt be surprised if he did decide to leave, the Mets just waived one of their best prospects and the Astros picked him up. Fernando Martinez.

I was not in favor of waiving Fernando Martinez at the ripe old age of 23 especially when you probably could have snuck someone like Chris Schwinden or DJ Carrasco (at 1.75M) through the waiver process. But Fernando also what are believed to be arthritic knees and has never played more then 90 games. I was a big Fernando fan but this is why established players > prospects. The Mets, once upon a time were widely believed to have turned down the chance to bring in Manny Ramirez in a deal for Fernando. Omar Minaya declined. The result was not enough offense down the stretch in 2007. Granted Manny was out of baseball last year and declined sharply soon after but you never know how 2007 and 2008 could have changed.

For the record, Martinez was on no one's top 10 prospects for the NYM this year. He was well behind bats like Flores, Niewhenhaus, Vaughn and Puello and pitchers like Familia, Wheeler, Harvey, Meija, etc. The Mets farm system has grown a lot in recent years. Martinez barely even ranked in the top 20 at this point. Part of that is due to injury, part of that is because he never progressed as expected.

"BleedinGreenNC wrote:

FWIW, just read on Espn that the Yankees might be looking for a team to trade Burnett to, Mets came up.

Would make sense for both teams and the Mets from a financial standpoint. Bay has 2 years left on his deal and a 3rd year that vests if he hits 500 AB's this year and next. Mets wont assume salary I think its safe to say but I think the idea of getting out from under Bay's 3rd year option would be appealing to the Coupons er Wilpons. Nov 14 1986-current and no WS titles. Sell Sell Sell! :(

"Boik14 wrote:

Would make sense for both teams and the Mets from a financial standpoint. Bay has 2 years left on his deal and a 3rd year that vests if he hits 500 AB's this year and next. Mets wont assume salary I think its safe to say but I think the idea of getting out from under Bay's 3rd year option would be appealing to the Coupons er Wilpons. Nov 14 1986-current and no WS titles. Sell Sell Sell! :(

I think the Yankees would sweeten the deal by eating most of Burnetts contract.

"BleedinGreenNC wrote:

I think the Yankees would sweeten the deal by eating most of Burnetts contract.

Eh take Pelfrey instead! Please!!! He is torture to watch. Last year as bad as the Mets were I watched or listened to the radio for almost every Mets game. I purposely missed the games Pelfrey was starting.

Like the trade for both sides. Seattle needed a young impact bat, which they get with Montero while the Yankees get a young SP in Pineda.

Only negatives for both guys are Montero can't play a position so he's stuck at DH and his value isn't as high there and he's moving to a home ball park where its tough on RHH. As for Pineda he's moving into a tougher division to pitch in hitters parks, he had a very average 2nd half of the year (whether the hitters caught up to his stuff or he just got tired or it could be a mix of both but the kid is only 23 so he doesn't have a track record yet) and some scouts question his second and third pitches.

Again though I think it was a pretty fair/even trade for both clubs.

"Ray Finkle wrote:

Like the trade for both sides. Seattle needed a young impact bat, which they get with Montero while the Yankees get a young SP in Pineda.

Only negatives for both guys are Montero can't play a position so he's stuck at DH and his value isn't as high there and he's moving to a home ball park where its tough on RHH. As for Pineda he's moving into a tougher division to pitch in hitters parks, he had a very average 2nd half of the year (whether the hitters caught up to his stuff or he just got tired or it could be a mix of both but the kid is only 23 so he doesn't have a track record yet) and some scouts question his second and third pitches.

Again though I think it was a pretty fair/even trade for both clubs.

Agreed, although I believe the Yanks got the advantage on this one....23 year old, cost controlled, guy who is still learning how to pitch that throws 97? For a DH?

CC, Nova, and Pineda are going to be there for a long time...now if Hughes could only get his head out of his as# and pitch, they have the ability to have a very good rotation for years to come....

Now all they need is some actual hitters.....not home run guys....which Montero seems like he was...

"finyank13 wrote:

Agreed, although I believe the Yanks got the advantage on this one....23 year old, cost controlled, guy who is still learning how to pitch that throws 97? For a DH?

CC, Nova, and Pineda are going to be there for a long time...now if Hughes could only get his head out of his as# and pitch, they have the ability to have a very good rotation for years to come....

Now all they need is some actual hitters.....not home run guys....which Montero seems like he was...

I bet you'll see Hughes in the bullpen or traded. I kind of get the feeling the Yankees are a bit down on Hughes because of last year.