Now if one watched the game, the ball clearly hit the ground on the attempted 4th down conversion to effectively end the game.
But the NFL Stat Monkeys are not concerned with actual facts, they simply look at the stat line and add it to the column.
Stat Monkeys are pathetic.
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Wait...HOW can they change that to an INT? That is ludicrous. The NFL is horrible.
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I don't think it's being a stat monkey to change an incomplete pass to an interception. It's being blind. A stat monkey will use the newly changed into stat, and the lower QB rating to argue that Henne played poorly.
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But Stat Monkey doesn't care about such things.Ophinerated likes this. -
The worst is one long run by a Running Back, for example Chris Johnson was stuffed most of the evening by the Jags, the game was out of hand, like 23-3 in the 4th qtr with 2:30 to go, CJ breaks out a 45 yd TD run, makes it over 100 yds, and "look CJ had another 100 yd game! He is a dominant running back".
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No, he did make the play, however the play was essentially meaningless and is probative of nothing having to do with CJ's performance, sort of like USC running up a score when they were great, yeah maybe Joe Flutzenutz had 8 TD's on the season, but 5 came against UTEP.
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Johnson still broke the run, worked for it and got the yards. It's not really a "wow he's dominant" as it is a "damn, he still got his numbers."hugoguzman likes this. -
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On the INT - it's almost like when the QB chucks a hail mary into the enzone at the end of the half and it gets intercepted. It goes on his stat line, but it isn't a "bad" interception (or in Henne's case, an interception at all).
On the rushing example, let's say Team A has stuffed the run the entire game and had held Team B to 40yards on the ground. Late in the 4th quarter, Team B fakes a punt from their own 10 and the punter runs it 90 yards for a touchdown. Anyone not familiar with the game will look at the stats and say, "Team B ran the ball well. They rushed for 130 yards." But in reality, Team A shut down the run. Make sense?Hellion, texasPHINSfan, and 3 others like this. -
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There are more than a few stat monkeys here that base their arguments on what they read rather than what they watch. If they watch at all.
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I know it says it was changed but during the game it was called an interception and not sure but believe the ball was spotted at that spot, and not where the line of scrimmage was since it was a turnover on downs. So I guess they had listed it incomplete and then saw what it was called on the field? Obviously it wasn't an interception but since it didn't matter either way I guess they didn't care to review it. Was hoping they would because it's unfair to Henne but oh well.
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There is more to the game than stats. They only tell part of the story.baboo72 likes this. -
The problem is Stats assume a consistency, for example "it is ALWAYS a bad play to throw an interception" when the fact is, no that is not true some passes are thrown with little chance to be completed but the Game Situation demands they be thrown.
11 completions for 150 yds, wow almost 15 yds per pass play!
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How about the team that is so bad against the pass that no one even runs on them? A team like that looks like they are monsters against the run.Steve-Mo likes this. -
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What is a stat monkey and how does it work? Do they rewatch the game to determine the stats.
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"Stat Monkey says Chad Henne has thrown 4 4th Qtr interceptions". -
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If you find a stat that presents the wrong picture (doesn't match up with reality) then:
a) you must break down stats at a more granular level
b) gather more data to make data statistically relevant to account for outliers
c) You can't use an outlier as proof that statistics don't tell the whole picture
d) You can't resort to dogma and rhetoric like "there are lies, damn lies, and statistics"
e) The entire universe conforms to statistics/probability (both at the quantum and cosmological level)
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Then this is yet another bad call during the game by these S#!THOLE refs!! Wouldn't this qualify as a mandatory reviewable play within the last 2 minutes?
After the play I feared this would happen and was hoping Miami would challenge it just to save Henne's a$$ from unnecessary criticism from ignorant stat monkeys who would misinterpret his performance.
It has zero reflexion on the game or it's outcome, so they should change it back.
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But Stat Monkeys do not believe in such nuances.
Add in, a completion is a completion, is a completion, when Henne was throwing dump off passes during the patriots blowout, it counts just as much as throwing a completion while the Wr is triple covered, a Statistic cannot discern intent, only outcomes. -
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