Assuming we keep #6 where it is and grab either Pitts or a WR1, what's your preference for our pick at #18?
Trade up, stay pat, trade back?
And under what conditions or for what purpose?
Mock draft images welcome.
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My first preference would be to take Pitts at #6, and then if Chase or Waddle fell to about #10, try to package #18 with something else and move up to snag them. It so happens that per the chart, #18+#50=#10 exactly.
If we aren't able to do that, and none of Chase, Waddle or Sewell happen to fall all the way to #18, then I would be interested in taking WR Bateman, who's often mocked around that spot. He's my third favorite WR in this draft.
However, if we were to be given an awesome trade offer to move down, I'd be very willing to consider that too. -
If Pitts is there at 6, draft him otherwise trade back because there will be 4-5 guys who are equally good you can pickup a little later. Plus I like the WRs and OTs available in that 18-36 range.
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If we can’t trade back, I’d like to target best available pass rusher. Outside of another playmaker, I think pass rusher is one of our top needs.
I like Collins or Phillips there. I don’t think Paye will fall that far but he’d be another one.Last edited: Apr 9, 2021Pennington's Limp Arm likes this. -
At 18, I don't have any expectations. My preference would be to grab Najee Harris there but I think the Fins take BPA, trade back or even trade up for a falling Waddle/Smith. Sewell could potentially drop as well if there's an early run on QB's as expected.
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Pitts at six! Almost rhymes. I choose Pitts because of the WRs available later.
I chose Slater because he was there and we still need OL help. BPA approach on that mock. -
So many variables. It’s almost impossible to say without knowing what happens at 6.
If we stand pat at 18; Paye, Slater or a (potentially) falling Parsons would be huge gets there.
If they think Najee is going to absolutely transform our running game. Even though the value doesn’t seem great, I wouldn’t be too upset.
If we get Sewell at 6. Anything could happen and I wouldn’t rule out trading up from 18.KeyFin likes this. -
Assuming we take either Pitts or a WR at 6 ....
Give me Najee all day. If he's gone, I would think long and hard about Etienne and maybe even Williams, though I'd try and trade back from 18 into the 20s for them.
I'd be OK with Kwitty Paye or Jason Oweh or the Georgia kid, as well as Zaven Collins or Jaycee Horn.
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When I watch Harris, I just don't see what others do, I guess. He doesn't look special at anything, and I can't envision him as a dominant runner in the NFL. -
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What productive NFL RB would you guys compare Harris to? Current or past.
I see various people say Derrek Henry, but I really, really don't see that. The two don't move or play in the same way at all. Henry has a ton of power, and did in college too. That's not who Harris is.
I've seen others say Matt Forte, and that I buy more so. I could see that as his ceiling. But Forte isn't a guy I'm using the 18th pick on, and that's not who or what I personally want as our RB of the future. -
When you see Harris drag defenders while in an Alabama uniform, you think about Derrick Henry or maybe Eddie Lacy, but he's not as massive as those guys. When you see Harris with good moves in the passing game, you think back to David Montgomery or Kareem Hunt, but Harris profiles as a little more athletic with a little more size. Think about Todd Gurley's collegiate game -- he was strong, tough, physical and versatile. Harris might not be exactly as fast as Gurley, but otherwise, there are some legitimate similarities.
Advanced stats to know
- 962 yards after contact, third-most in college football (PFF)
- 69 missed tackles forced, second-most in college football (PFF)
- 3.26 yards after contact per attempt, a surprisingly low 89th in college football (PFF)
- Only 25 career carries of 20-plus yards
- 22 broken tackles on 43 catches this year
- Just one drop in 2020, just one fumble lost in his entire college career
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I think we can wait until the 2nd round to pick up our RB1 but I have a feeling that there's going to be a run on them shortly before we select.
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I compare Harris to Le’Veon Bell.
Big guy who is really shifty and agile and prefers to dance around contact then run through guys. Also a great pass catcher and route runner.
They both lack breakaway/home run speed.
Javonte Williams prefers violence on every carry. Very different runners. Thankfully Williams is only a junior and basically split carries with Carter last year. So he isn’t really beaten up despite his style.Kud_II likes this. -
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But yeah, I wouldn't be shocked by them taking Harris at all, just that they definitely have other needs, that is not a complete team right now. -
Well I want Najee. Last I heard he was gonna slip. So depending on where the Dolphins peg him to land I'd like to have a big back like him in my backfield again pushing/dragging linemen if he has to. I want that pick for Tua. Just like I want a top pass catcher+play maker for Tua at #6. But if the Dolphins predict him to slip all the way to 36, or if they trade up from 36, it all depends on the gamble and who they are targeting at the end of the day at 18.
But as usual the Dolphins' probably have something totally different planned than any of us can anticipate for both our firsts. I would not be surprised, because I know Grier is capable of surprise so I won't be. I won't be surprised if we 'reach' will all of our picks just to get who Grier thinks will add to Miami. -
There are some other good backs in this draft that may or may not start straight away. But none of them have been talked about as 1st round prospects. None of them have the size that Najee has. We'd be crazy (i think) not to grab him at 18 even if it is a slight reach. I don't think it is because he's the only back worth having in this draft (to me) that will take a heavy burden off Tua, which is what we should be focusing on at least in the 1st round. The 1st round is all about 'How do we give Tua the best tools to succeed right away' as far as I'm concerned.Hooligan, M1NDCRlME and OwesOwn614 like this. -
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I’d rather get Williams in the 2nd and go after the top available pass rusher at 18. But I’m one of those people that just doesn’t like taking RB’s in the 1st round and values DE/OLB over RB.
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I suspect that Williams is the only one of the three to still be on the board at #36.
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I think that Williams is an excellent runner. Thick, tough and strong, and he bounces off of people and keeps his balance at an elite level. He's also good as a receiver, and I've read multiple places that he might be the best pass blocking RB in this class. I watch him and think that he can be 2016 Jay Ajayi year after year, plus he'll only be 21 years old this season and doesn't have a lot of wear and tear from college, so barring injury, he could be a good one for years down the line. -
I like LB/DE (In this order) before we consider an RB at 18;
Parsons
Paye
Collins
Phillips
and Ojulari
I doubt any of the above make it to 36.
Not too high on Rousseau, Oweh or Owusu-Komoroah
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But I’m comparing taking him vs taking a running back. RB’s are always an injury risk... It’s the default nature of that position. With both being risky, Give me Phillips and the top tier pass rush potential. -
I'd love to see something like:
6. Chase/Pitts
18. Collins
36. Oweh or best pass rusher available
50. Williams
81. Quinn Meinerz
I think our fastest path to a Super Bowl, outside of Tua making major strides, is get our defense to championship level. We made big investments in our OL in last years draft and if we add a couple of playmakers this year, I really like our chances.Pennington's Limp Arm and JJ_79 like this. -
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