Karlos Dansby
Brandon Marshall
Richie Incognito
Jared Odrick
Koa Misi
John Jerry
Nolan Carroll
Reshad Jones
Tim Dobbins
Roberto Wallace
Marlon Moore
Pat McQuistan
Jermey Parnell
Joe Reitz
Clifton Geathers
Rob Rose
Bobby Carpenter
Micah Johnson
Benny Sapp
20 if you count Ikaika Alama-Francis. That's roughly 35% of the roster. Only 33 players from 2008 returning. Wow. I was not expecting that much of a turnover.
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I agree. Hes coaching like someone who has a ten year contract. He doesnt. And he better win this year....more than last year. The owner has opened up his check book in the offseason. Eight games is the bare minimum he can and keep his job, I think. IMO, he should be on the hook for ten, but thats just me.
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i dont understand that arguement. wouldn't it be better to have someone coaching as if on a ten year contract? That way, the coach would take time to rebuild a roster from the top down to assure quality and competition for years to come. A long term coach would also be earlier to admit mistakes and move on as opposed to a short term coach, who would pile mistake on top of mistake on his way to a quick fix.
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I like the fact that this front office is building a solid foundation and taking their time. Hope fans are smart enough to have patience with them, I'd hate to see us go back to constant turnover in the coaching staff and front office that we've have in recent years.
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I'm of the crowd thats saying the glass is half empty! Its year three and we don't even have a settled O-line or QB (imvho). Some things should have already been fixed yet we are still raiding the Cowboy sandbox for their castoffs. Looks to me as if we are the South Beach Cowboys, who btw, don't look so hot this year either. At least Jones and Ross have one thing in common; they are already playing in the SB together.:lol:
On a more serious note this scatter gun effect will never win us a SB. Lets coach what we have and make them better rather than throwing them away every year cause the grass looks greener on the other side of the fence!DolfanJake likes this. -
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We have been patient enough. We have had a legendary coach that took all the time and then couldn't cope with a salary cap. We have had a former Dallas SB winning coach who just never could understand he needed to let his superstar QB win the games for him. We then had his idiot protogé who ruined the franchise with his stubborness and stupidity. Then we had the liar, the devil himself. If that wasn't bad enough then we had quite possibly the most unready man ever to be an NFL Head Coach. Now we have this regime, and my patience is wearing very, very thin, and if I have to witness another team like Tampa Bay or Tennessee go from drafting with us a couple of years ago to winning a Super Bowl before we do, I will feel being a Dolphins fan is more like being a Cubs fan than ever.
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the good news is that new faces WERE needed at each of those positions sans NT ....
i also believe that Sapp, given the current situation at CB -- could very well take over from Allen .... i would rather have him as the nickel or even a S candidate, but the situation might dictate otherwise ...... what i do know, is that it doesn't take that much to improve on Smith's play
the jury is still out on these folks ....
Reshad Jones
Roberto Wallace*
Marlon Moore*
Pat McQuistan
Jermey Parnell
Joe Reitz
Clifton Geathers
Rob Rose
Bobby Carpenter
Micah Johnson*
*s showed that they have the potential to contribute to this team in the pre-season, regarding Ts .... we showed that we needed some new blood (and i did hold out high hopes for Gardner when we picked him up) ....
Geathers just needs to find some motivation ....
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thats a big number for a team that should be re-tooling in their third year.there's teams rebuilding that didn't have as big a turnaround.makes me wonder about the gm a little.he has been throwing alot of money at guys that only last a year or 2 on the team.but he has done some good things aswell since here.
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Obviously Sparano was lying when he said that he thought the 2009 team was better than the 2008 team.
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Just because Ireland has an arrogant & self-absorbed attutude. That he just acts like his stuff doesn't stink, doesn't mean its not true. Even Parcells can make mistakes, and maybe Ireland just isn't as good as he thought. -
Lou Polite.
Davone Bess.
Dan Carpenter.
Chad Pennington.
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we've discussed this, but it is harder to find the final pieces than it is to rebuild a team .... we are in the 'final pieces' mode -- meaning, we still need that game changing OLB (Wake and Misi aren't that guy), and ball hawking S (Clemons and Amaya need time) ... these are the pieces we need. (well we could keep NT on that list as well) moving Starks was a necessity, not a preplanned move as a 'solution' -- that i'll never buy.
where we haven't been very successful is signing for a need .... Pennington fell in our lap ... Marshall, Dansby and even Grove were no brainers -- and we didn't 'settle' .... it's when we have dropped down from 1st tier FAs that we have faltered .....
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Even though I am surprised by the number of new faces I am pretty happy with our core group of players. We should score a ton of points with Henne, Marshall, Long, Ronnie and Ricky on offense. Dansby, Starks, Davis, and Bell are among the best at their respective positions. I believe Odrick and Wake will prove themselves this season. And Misi has a lot of buzz surrounding him. If he is half as good as everybody is saying our defense should be one of the best in the NFL.