Miami is not in the best cap position in the NFL in 2018. I've seen one website where we have $16M available. But I've heard it was less. I think everyone agrees that Miami is starving for talent, both younger and cheaper. I think some of you agree that in 2018 we have opportunities to shed salaries, however, to gain nothing in return would put us in a precarious position. So my question is, should Miami start to plant the seeds with teams like Cleveland, SF and Indy, to trade some players for draft picks, once those teams can absorb the salaries and for those teams to be competitive, they probably need to spend some money, instead of just depending on the draft? In addition, these teams may not attract free agents, so a trade would be a way of acquiring players.
My thinking is Miami has a ton of salary on players that for years haven't transcended this team. Getting picks would not only provide depth and get us younger, but also not leave the team so void that they are forced to again bring in free agents and continue this mediocre run. In other words, why cut players to sign more free agents? Miami needs to stop using free agency as a way of building their team. Another angle is Miami stockpiling picks to move up in the draft. So if you are Clev or SF, you absorb some salary by trading for Miami's veterans. Well, Clev and SF (for example) has very high picks in the draft, that could be attractive to Miami. Maybe Miami can utilize these picks to move up, essentially giving those picks back to those teams. It isn't an exact science, but I think you get what I am saying: shed salaries for picks and move up in the draft with those picks.
I'm sure a lot of you will complain (I know one in particular), however, it is insane to keep thinking that the same players, after 5-10 years, will finally all put it together. It is time to move on from players
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sure if you can find suckers. i’m up for trading anyone at this point even ryan. teams with top 5 draft picks are going to need QB’s and this year there are a few good ones so it might be costly.
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I've read some pretty knowledgeable posters showing likely scenarios where the Dolphins cut or trade a number of current players and our cap space should go from that $16 mil range to a ~$45 mil range.
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This is the solution a child would give.cuchulainn, Simon and Fin D like this. -
We aren't in a position that we can cut off avenues to get better. We need FAs and solid drafts, to get us to a solid roster. Once we have a solid roster, then you can try to build a homegrown product almost entirely through the draft like Green Bay tries to do. Plus, if the players you are talking about trading are below avg, but have above avg pay, who is going to trade for them?
In my opinion, if you have guys on your team that the contract you gave them, makes them unmovable in a trade, then it was a bad contract. I see a a lot of bad contracts on this Dolphins team. They need to get better at this.mbsinmisc, firedan, Dolphin North and 1 other person like this. -
The team is starving for a solid offensive line and a superstar either on offense or defense. That superstar player will only be found in the draft. Do we need a quarterback? I think we do at this point. Tannehill is solid, but a captivating superstar at that position would nullify a lot of other weaknesses we have on both sides of the ball.
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If I'am the Gm of course I'm always planting seeds to see what suckers are out there..
for certain players on our team I would approach them about a restructure..
but seriously, all the players are available for the right place as you know.
I would trade anyone on the o-line for the proper draft pick..
I wouldn't draft our two running backs..
I would trade Branch..
I wouldn't trade any secondary players.
I would trade Parker for a 2nd.
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I wouldn't trade Phillips, branch I agree, no-one is gonna touch that.
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I’m good with a 3rd/4th for Parker... would love a 2nd but don’t see it happening... I see his value only getting worse from here on out at this point in his career...
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We'd be lucky to get a 4th for Parker.
And I'd take it, to be honest.
Imo we have no assets worth trading for. At least not ones we'd get rid of. Landry, tannehill, Tunsil, Harris, Parker, Jones, Tankersley, and Howard. Most of those are guys I can't see us cutting loose. -
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Based on what we've seen this season, we can't let Landry go and stay with Parkershamegame13 and Fin D like this. -
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What you're ignoring are the examples of teams turning it around with one good draft. The most recent example is ATL. They went from a crap team, nailed a draft with their defensive picks and went to the superbowl last year. And while our team hasn't nailed a draft, the idea that we can trade good players for draft picks and come out shiny is just wrong. It's the person making the draft picks. Giving them more picks is unlikely to make that jump we're looking for.cuchulainn, Simon, aesop and 1 other person like this. -
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The draft..keeping their own especially, key free event signings.
I know I’ve been keeping an eye in their personnel moves for those three years and have been thinking over that time, damn, I like what their doing.Simon likes this. -
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Branch has a $12M hit next year. Don't look at it as 21st, look at it based on this team, his production, and what we could actually do w that money
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Everyone strikes out in the draft, the FA signing are key and we seem to sign guys off names and not productions besides SUH that is, I think the guy got a bad wrap here the guy is doubled teamed every play and I think hes played like 98% of snaps and still competing.
but mike Wallace, julie Thomas, maxwell and a huge list of others are all bad signings based off previous productions and they never pan out here. and that could be coaching or just overpaid players who knows.
You can say you can trade Landry all you want but I don't see that guy signing back with Miami and its going to suck. He does have an option to not sign and trade right? if that's the case I seriously doubt he agrees to that and just picks his team on his own if he has that choice. Just my opinion -
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I honestly think foles is legit, he was put in a crappy spot dealing with fisher and chip Kelly, this offense is better suited for both them guys pedersons team is playing so well because everyone has bought in, the question is has all of Miami bought in? at times I think so then at times I see it not so. -
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Anyone on this team that can draw a first round pick or very early second, should be traded. And i mean anyone. this team needs to be nuked.
Suh’s contrsct is untradeable, we need him to restructure. So we are stuck with him but we need to rework those numbers with his agent. -
God that is such a bad deal lol -
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Over the last 2 seasons his cap hit has averaged $4 million. That ranks him at about 35th. If you add in next season and look at the 3 year total he's averaged $6 million or about 31st.
His contract is not bad.
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