Reported where? There's speculation that because Fisher likes Ireland, then they might be able to work out a trade deal. But where was this actually reported as fact? Mort and Schefter have nothing on their Twitter accounts.

 

There's basically no chance this is happening now.

 

Even if it were to happen, wouldn't it happen a lot closer to the draft? I mean, the Rams don't even have a GM in place yet. Neither team has re-signed their own players or signed other free agents. Just seems like speculation at best.

 

ESPN Radio is not a reliable source.

 

Minnesota more likely...Regardless, Ireland should be trying to get RGIII till he's gone.

 

Are we sure they aren't trading up to get Kalil? :shifty:

 

The better question is, "Is RG3 worth trading the farm for"

I don't think he is.. His size scares me.... You saw what happened to Vick this season.

 

I heard this too, apparently from Mort. I'll believe it when I see RG3 or Peyton holding up a Dolphins jersey.

It would certainly win people over, myself included. If Ireland traded up and then selected Kalil over RG3 I'm pretty sure people would get even more pissed off...but even my pessimistic self doubts they would pass up on a QB...

 

I saw it on Ireland's blog.
http://www.yomasaho.com

 

Nor should it, we are in a bad tactical position, we need to add playmaking talent, to push the issue to land a Qb with few playmakers means we have depleted our resources needed to add those playmakers.

I'd love to have RG3, if they can make the trade then great, if not, add more pieces at Wr and OL.

 

This wouldn't win me over at all. It feels like a high risk desperation move.

 

Maybe Fisher will send Bradford our way?.....Bradford has a huge contract, and Fisher might be in love with RG3?

 

Who do you have an eye on Rafi?

And I agree, trading the #40 overall to move up hurts us a bit to much, might even cost more to move up.

 

We don't have a QB...Flynn, Peyton or RGIII. Go get one or continue to build.

 

Fisher went to the RAM in part due to having a #2 to compliment his regime building process. They will not give Miami the #2 pick lol Ross and Ireland can't get it done.. So much for winning last year huh! Suck for Luck should have been mandated again we screw it up! LOL Im seriously starting to root against these clowns..

 

He is over rated nand not worth the losing so much to get him. A proven QB like Fylnn off waviers is much safer and we could use our pick to beef up the line some more. Ireland you're an IDIOT if you trade up for him, he's not worth losing all that goes into trading up the draftboard. Be smart for once and get a proven guy like Reiff that can start right away and ake a bigger hole for Bush and Thoams!!! Oh wait did I mention smart and ireland in the same sentence....:lol:

 

I suspect that is what our situation calls for, a vet Fa or add pieces to the offense AND defense

One of the problems is dolfans are wee-wee'd up over a Qb, reality is we lost 5 gms by 13 pts, and had 4 4th qtr fades by the defense, standing pat is not a real option for the Defense imo

 

I prefer trading up for Luck or back for Tannehill or Weedon. I also like Russell Wilson in the third. I'd also prefer just signing Flynn. Trading up for RGIII might be next on the list depending on the cost. I don't really care about trading the #40 since without a franchise QB our chances of winning anything are pretty slim regardless of what #40 would net us. I would be willing to give up quite a bit for a QB I thought had a pretty good chance of becoming a franchise QB, I just don't love the risk/reward balance for RGIII. Too much of what he will have to do we haven't seen.

 

I am telling you that Mort is not reporting it. It turns out that he speculated—speculated—on a TV appearance this morning that Fisher would be amenable to working out a trade with Ireland based on the former's like of the latter. This is not the same as reporting that a trade is in the works. Again, ESPN Radio is not a reliable source.

I'm not killing the messenger. How many times do I have to say "ESPN Radio"? I never said you were relaying incorrect information. I never attacked you once. I said ESPN Radio is wrong. Relax.

 

Luck is going to Indy, end of story for me at least, Irsay can talk all that family stuff with Manning the reality is the Colts even cut Unitas loose.

Not wild about Flynn, he had one great game, in a system loaded with playmakers, I'd prefer a Vet Qb who made the guys around him better if we go that route, and his cost will be terribly high, so I can see him going to where all overpriced FA's go, Washington, I'd roll my FA dice on Orton or Garrard.

To me, if you add either Orton or Garrard, to compete with Moore, you have done your level best to acquire a Top 15 Qb, which also frees draft choices to add playmakers or no Qb is going to succeed in the NFL for very long.

As for the Franchise Qb, agree on rolling the dice on Weedon, or even Osweiler, do know over 30 rushing attempts and 20 or less passing attempts and the win % is up around 90%, if we are out of position for a Qb would be a good idea to take that route imo.

 

I don't understand. If Fisher likes Ireland, than why did he want all the control? Sure doesn't seem like he likes him at all.

 

That's so glass half empty, whereas we might not have lost if we had a QB. Every defense in the league wears down at the end of the game. It's just not a prudent move in today's NFL.

However, I'll be very surprised if Ireland actually manages to pull anything off beyond Flynn at the position. RGIII is as good a prospect as you could ask for. Same with Rodgers, Matty ice, etc. I actually think RGIII would be a perfect fit for the exciting offensive style they're trying to build down here.

 

I have a suspicion this offseason will rival any for us in terms of constant rumors, debate and just plain old BS.. Worse than 2007 when we debated all offseason about Brady Quinn only to have him slip to us and selecting Ginn... Can't wait to see what the 2012 draft brings... And I'm willing to be none of the scenarios we discuss come to pass.

 

It's the fact of the matter though and add in we lost our #2 sack guy in JT, that will make the D more of a priority imo.

IDK, Ross was apparently pushing for Fisher with intensity, if he feels a Qb is needed, and he likes RG3, would not surprise me at all to see them make offers.

Great thing is, we won't have to wait until the 20's to find out who we drafted this yr.

 

Hopefully Ross threw Fisher a million for his "consulting" services while he was down in Miami.. You know a million under the table... Since Fisher has full control and all..... :pointlol:

 

Considering all the attendance lost because of this Fisher debacle, they need to do something like this.

 

I hope we dont get Tannyhil because i saw him play and he makes Cleo Lemon look like Damon Huard.I am almost ready to conced to Rafael 's point of view so I am ready for Miiami to go and get a qb . I would think after having 28 quarterbacks that more fin fans would want to get this issue closed.I would not mind it if drafted Richardson or that cornnerback from Lsu who's name escapes me.

 

This is a great Qb FA class.

-Garrard
-Orton
-Campbell
-Flynn
-Josh Johnson
-Shaun Hill

Typically you'd see the John Becks' of the NFL as Qb Fa's.

 

Agreed. With a couple key acquisitions we could instantly be a 10-6, 11-5 team with the QB's we got.

 

Really? RG3 is listed at the same height as, and 5 pounds lighter than Aaron Rodgers. To compare, Matt Moore is about 20 pounds lighter than Griffin. Vick is 15 pounds heavier than Moore as well.

It's amazing how despite only three things being similar between RG3 (speed, arm strength, one more thing) means that they should be compared.

 

i didnt read all your posts in here but are you saying sign a FA and dont draft a QB?
And im assuming these guys are backup cause Moore seems better than these FA

 

Whens the last time somebody traded up or down in a draft, prior to the actual draft?

At least with no players involved?

I can almost guarantee there isn't even a conversation about the pick between the two teams.

 

I think if we get Tannehill Dolphins fans will be disapointed with his play, Texas A&M fans didn't even want him as their QB last year.

 

What is there for a QB except speed and arm strength ;)

 

You mean tank the future just to make the whiny fan base shut the **** up for now.
Those same fans will be carrying pitchforks when it doesn't work out.
Dog chases tail.