Alabama/Florida

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BoomerBoomerluxury_boxOP
Dec 6, 2008, 05:00 PM

Antoine Caldwell is having a storming game. The commentators keep talking Andre Smith up, but play after running play, Glen Coffee has huge holes because of Caldwell. He blocks so well on the move and gets consistent push on almost every snap and even when he's rocked back, he maintains strong technique and uses that solid base to keep his feet. He's never on the ground.

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ALalen1New Member
Dec 6, 2008, 05:00 PM

Definitely. Watching Smith, he is the last one off the line quite often..

BoomerBoomerluxury_box
Dec 6, 2008, 05:02 PM

When Smith gets his hands on you, it's done, but he's slow off the ball and that often leaves him Loadholting (off balanced).

Did you see BC/Va Tech?

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ALalen1New Member
Dec 6, 2008, 05:04 PM

"Boomer wrote:

When Smith gets his hands on you, it's done, but he's slow off the ball and that often leaves him Loadholting (off balanced).

Did you see BC/Va Tech?

I saw a pass break-up by Macho Harris and that was really about it.

Anyone stand out?

BoomerBoomerluxury_box
Dec 6, 2008, 05:05 PM

Smith also doesn't have that superior second kick that Mike Oher has for example and that Jason Smith has. Watch when Smith kicks but doesn't have his hands on the end. After his first kick, if the end takes a 2nd move around the outside, Smith's footwork isn't as strong as the others in keeping the end away from the QB. Oher has tremendously quick feet, even if at times he looks initially sloppy off the ball.

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JIjim1New Member
Dec 6, 2008, 05:07 PM

"Boomer wrote:

Antoine Caldwell is having a storming game. The commentators keep talking Andre Smith up, but play after running play, Glen Coffee has huge holes because of Caldwell. He blocks so well on the move and gets consistent push on almost every snap and even when he's rocked back, he maintains strong technique and uses that solid base to keep his feet. He's never on the ground.

Caldwell is impressing- he has power and some of the best feet I've seen on a center. Reminds me of D"Brickashaw Fergusun's feet- and that's saying a lot for a center. I'm starting to understand the Dwight Stephenson comparisons.

Tebow- I think that this board has him underrated- I wouldn't be surprised to see the Vikings take him in the 1st.

Cody- Big, doing some good things, but I'm not seeing much quickness. If Jerry can get to the 305-315 range I'd rather have him. I'd still take Cody over Raji.

BoomerBoomerluxury_box
Dec 6, 2008, 05:07 PM

"alen1 wrote:

I saw a pass break-up by Macho Harris and that was really about it.

Anyone stand out?

I fell asleep during the 1st half, but everytime I woke up Mark Herzlich was making a play. Then in the 2nd half he recovered 2 fumbles and was generally all over the field. BJ Raji played pretty well. He sheds very well, but he consistently plays a little high and gets rocked a bit too often for me. He's definitely a good player, but he's in that 2nd level of DT's. He's certainly not in the class of Marks, Cody or Jerry.

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BoomerBoomerluxury_box
Dec 6, 2008, 05:09 PM

Look how Tebow won't be an NFL QB; this game is the perfect personificaton; when he has to work his progressions and when the pocket moves but Hightower and McClain stay in the box and prevent him running, his mechanics, footwork and delivery are horrific.

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ALalen1New Member
Dec 6, 2008, 05:10 PM

"jim1 wrote:

Caldwell is impressing- he has power and some of the best feet I've seen on a center. Reminds me of D"Brickashaw Fergusun's feet- and that's saying a lot for a center. I'm starting to understand the Dwight Stephenson comparisons.

Tebow- I think that this board has him underrated- I wouldn't be surprised to see the Vikings take him in the 1st.

Cody- Big, doing some good things, but I'm not seeing much quickness. If Jerry can get to the 305-315 range I'd rather have him. I'd still take Cody over Raji.

I don't know what to make of Tebow. He looks good at times and then at times, he looks awfully sloppy. Wind up seems a bit long.

BoomerBoomerluxury_box
Dec 6, 2008, 05:12 PM

"jim1 wrote:

Caldwell is impressing- he has power and some of the best feet I've seen on a center. Reminds me of D"Brickashaw Fergusun's feet- and that's saying a lot for a center. I'm starting to understand the Dwight Stephenson comparisons.

Tebow- I think that this board has him underrated- I wouldn't be surprised to see the Vikings take him in the 1st.

Cody- Big, doing some good things, but I'm not seeing much quickness. If Jerry can get to the 305-315 range I'd rather have him. I'd still take Cody over Raji.

Don't see it with Tebow. An NFL CB isn't going to bite the way Marquise Johnson just did.

Cody is still coming back off the leg injury and really he's not in there to be "quick" per se. His role today is to space eat and allow Hightower and McClain and the very impressive Justin Woodall to come free. The game is too fast for him to be hugely effective because Florida's game is downhill and on the edges, rather than through the middle.

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BoomerBoomerluxury_box
Dec 6, 2008, 05:15 PM

"alen1 wrote:

I don't know what to make of Tebow. He looks good at times and then at times, he looks awfully sloppy. Wind up seems a bit long.

No doubt about it, he's fun to watch, a tremendous competitor and a great college QB. But I don't see NFL translational skills. Yes he has a decent arm, yes he's bright and mobile, but the ball doesn't get out quickly, if he gets pressured the mechanics break down and he's still a run first QB at heart and if you can't break that mentality in college, it's much harder to break in the pros.

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BoomerBoomerluxury_box
Dec 6, 2008, 05:16 PM

That fake FG was the dumbest call I've seen in a long time. Talk about giving the Gators momentum when they had none.

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BoomerBoomerluxury_box
Dec 6, 2008, 05:19 PM

Look at Caldwell's feet, knees, hips and shoulders; all perfectly aligned on every snap. Great drive up through the DT, getting tremendous pad level; on some snaps he immediately turns his guy to the side, others he gets the initial forward movement with great technique, then quick as a flash turns his hips and moves his feet and turns him to the side, never losing balance and always keeping his body between the ball carrier and the defender.

He's textbook. Putting on a clinic.

I am the sweat not the swagger.

ALalen1New Member
Dec 6, 2008, 05:20 PM

Spikes rush off the edge on Andre Smith is an example of something that I think will be a problem in the NFL for Smith. A quick first step will get by Smith.

JIjim1New Member
Dec 6, 2008, 05:23 PM

"Boomer wrote:

No doubt about it, he's fun to watch, a tremendous competitor and a great college QB. But I don't see NFL translational skills. Yes he has a decent arm, yes he's bright and mobile, but the ball doesn't get out quickly, if he gets pressured the mechanics break down and he's still a run first QB at heart and if you can't break that mentality in college, it's much harder to break in the pros.

I think that he can adapt. He's accurate, has a pretty good arm, and I find his delivery acceptable. Plus, he he is a consumate producer and winner. I sent the last post before the long completion- it wasn't an impressive throw, but he got the job done. I don't find the GBN pick of him to the Jets in the first absurd, either. He'll have to prove it in the pros, but I think that some team will take an early shot. The wildcat craze won't hurt either- I can see the Vikes picturing him doing the run/pass/option to A Peterson thing.

BoomerBoomerluxury_box
Dec 6, 2008, 05:23 PM

"alen1 wrote:

Spikes rush off the edge on Andre Smith is an example of something that I think will be a problem in the NFL for Smith. A quick first step will get by Smith.

Absolutely.

It's interesting to see Spikes line up there. I know it's something Chris thinks can play a major role in his future

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JIjim1New Member
Dec 6, 2008, 05:25 PM

"Boomer wrote:

Look at Caldwell's feet, knees, hips and shoulders; all perfectly aligned on every snap. Great drive up through the DT, getting tremendous pad level; on some snaps he immediately turns his guy to the side, others he gets the initial forward movement with great technique, then quick as a flash turns his hips and moves his feet and turns him to the side, never losing balance and always keeping his body between the ball carrier and the defender.

He's textbook. Putting on a clinic.

I agree. Again, like Dwight Stephenson- from the time that he snaps the ball to when he's upright, drive blocking with explosion or getting his hands up to pass pro- it's a blur.

BoomerBoomerluxury_box
Dec 6, 2008, 05:25 PM

"jim1 wrote:

I think that he can adapt. He's accurate, has a pretty good arm, and I find his delivery acceptable. Plus, he he is a consumate producer and winner. I sent the last post before the long completion- it wasn't an impressive throw, but he got the job done. I don't find the GBN pick of him to the Jets in the first absurd, either. He'll have to prove it in the pros, but I think that some team will take an early shot. The wildcat craze won't hurt either- I can see the Vikes picturing him doing the run/pass/option to A Peterson thing.

I've seen so many college QB's like Tim. He's a throwback, but is he going to be a 5 step pocket passer? Well he might, but I would rather hand my card in empty than draft him as a QB. I don't see it.

I am the sweat not the swagger.

BoomerBoomerluxury_box
Dec 6, 2008, 05:26 PM

That was a nice throw to Hernandez, but damn that ball comes out slow. Mollasses delivery.

Love Justin Woodall.

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BoomerBoomerluxury_box
Dec 6, 2008, 05:28 PM

There's a reason why Saban tried so hard to get Kevin Steele to be our defensive co-ordinator.

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BoomerBoomerluxury_box
Dec 6, 2008, 05:29 PM

"Boomer wrote:

Love Justin Woodall.

Although that was AWFUL coverage on the TD.

Thanks Justin.

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JIjim1New Member
Dec 6, 2008, 05:38 PM

"Boomer wrote:

I've seen so many college QB's like Tim. He's a throwback, but is he going to be a 5 step pocket passer? Well he might, but I would rather hand my card in empty than draft him as a QB. I don't see it.

Could be, whatever happens with Tebow in the pros happens. All he needs is one team to fall in love with him. The best part of this game, to me, is watching Caldwell do his thing. I could see us taking him in the 2nd.

ALalen1New Member
Dec 6, 2008, 05:43 PM

"Boomer wrote:

Although that was AWFUL coverage on the TD.

Thanks Justin.

Lol! Justin had a great run stop a few plays earlier and then the touchdown came and I was like "what?" That was ugly.

ALalen1New Member
Dec 6, 2008, 05:55 PM

This is the second or third time I've watched Alterraun Verner of UCLA and I really like him. He gets high and will bite on fakes but he can make plays and is a good player. I think he could be a second/third rounder.

ConuficusConuficusluxury_box
Dec 6, 2008, 06:00 PM

"alen1 wrote:

This is the second or third time I've watched Alterraun Verner of UCLA and I really like him. He gets high and will bite on fakes but he can make plays and is a good player. I think he could be a second/third rounder.

Somehow I knew this was coming. :lol:

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