Alright Coach..you got three years..

I wanted to wait and see the reactions, not sure it's the right thing to say before the guy coaches..but, I think any good coach knows that.

this roster is such a mess. so i guess we should say bye to gase right now.

"djphinfan wrote:

I wanted to wait and see the reactions, not sure it's the right thing to say before the guy coaches..but, I think any good coach knows that.

Ross gonna Ross.

Ross really has no clue, imo. Let's suppose he's serious. This is inconsistent management. He gave Joe Philbin a 4th season (though he was fired 4 games into it; had Miami gone 2-2, there's a chance he'd have held on a bit longer - but he had lost the team and simply was never even close to being a decent HC).

Ross is so inconsistent he just doesn't realize you can't just make a statement like that; it leads often to bad organizational decisions. And, building a team and structuring a team to win long-term is different from trying to get "wins" and/or "make the playoffs" over the next few years.

Ross thinks this way: "Just get the right coach in place and we'll win." He's thinking, "If I can get the right guy to manage this division, the division of the business will turn around and we'll be a successful business in the next year or two." But, that doesn't really work exactly in the NFL. You need an organization that evaluates talent and that develops a long-term identity (the way the Steelers; Packers; Patriots; have done).

Ross keeps expecting to win in a year or two with each regime change and doesn't get the idea that he needs to build a strong FO all the way down and let it run. I hope this present group of President-GM-Scouting Staff-HC will become that. Just don't think he is a very good long term owner.

Why? Just why? Yes, it's probably true, but there is absolutely no reason to even discuss firing the coach he just hired. No one has a crystal ball, RT could be lighting it up in the preseason and blow out his ACL on the first play of the season, and we could go 3-13 with some scrub QB. Does that count as a year? I don't know, but I can assure you one thing, the media will love to talk about it. After his second year, the media will immediately put him on the hot seat. Remember the year Jeff Ireland broke the bank because he knew that it was his last chance. We are still feeling the cap hits from his spending spree. The front office (likely tied to Gase) will be reckless with cap money if they fear that there may not be a tomorrow.

The thing is, it is fine to have these expectations. It is even fine to voice them internally (if you keep an eye on the checkbook), but nothing good will come from voicing them to the media. Imagine if Gase shows growth and produces a 9-7 team that misses the playoffs, but there is a witch hunt amongst the fans based on a soundbite from the owner, it would be one of the most "Dolphin things" to have happened since Ross bought the team.

this is Ross's thinking, if I can find the guy who can at least get us to the playoffs in three years he will get another 4 years no problem..

I think this is a direct reaction to the (justifiable) criticism he's received.

Ross is such a buffoon. While in reality this may be true hes already put his coach on the hotseat. Setup the media to start questioning everything. Hey coach you owners says you got three years.. etc this does nothign good for the organization. I say the fans tell ol ROSS you got three years to build a winner or you need to sell the team!!

Yup. This is on par with saying he wants a "young Don Shula" but hires a 50 yr old 1st time HC.

"Dorfdad wrote:

Ross is such a buffoon. While in reality this may be true hes already put his coach on the hotseat. Setup the media to start questioning everything. Hey coach you owners says you got three years.. etc this does nothign good for the organization. I say the fans tell ol ROSS you got three years to build a winner or you need to sell the team!!

Right... absolutely no need to say it.

Jesus, there is nothing Ross can do that people won't ***** about.

He's too soft on the coaches, now he's too hard on them.

"Dorfdad wrote:

Ross is such a buffoon. While in reality this may be true hes already put his coach on the hotseat. Setup the media to start questioning everything. Hey coach you owners says you got three years.. etc this does nothign good for the organization. I say the fans tell ol ROSS you got three years to build a winner or you need to sell the team!!

All coaches are on the hot seat.

Heck, Coughlin won two superbowls in New York and he pushed out.

FinD, it's a stupid thing to say. Just because he was stupid and said the wrong things in the past, doesn't make it smart when he says something to the opposite of it now.

Why can't he just keep his mouth shut, it's just one more illustration that he really doesn't get it yet, and you have to wonder how long it's going to take.

"resnor wrote:

FinD, is a stupid thing to say. Just because he was stupid and said the wrong things in the past, doesn't make it smart when he says something to the opposite of it now.

How is it stupid?

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

How is it stupid?

Because it can create unnecessary drama and unrest. Like someone else said, say it in private, if you must, but don't or it on blast in the media. I know Ross is trying to look like he wants to win, but I think it was stupid to say it.

Just to clarify, not saying that FinD's post was a stupid thing to say, was saying that Ross was stood for saying it

"resnor wrote:

Because it can create unnecessary drama and unrest. Like someone else said, say it in private, if you must, but don't or it on blast in the media. I know Ross is trying to look like he wants to win, but I think it was stupid to say it.

Just to clarify, not saying that FinD's post was a stupid thing to say, was saying that Ross was stood for saying it

How does it do either?

"djphinfan wrote:

I wanted to wait and see the reactions, not sure it's the right thing to say before the guy coaches..but, I think any good coach knows that.

3years is one thing....before he even coaches a single snap......but Ross saying: "Miami Dolphins owner sees new coach as “next Bill Belichick”" is just over the top.

I think its reality...not sure why anyone would have an issue with it. Hes just stating...playoffs are your benchmark, three years is your timeline. I mean if we miss the playoffs for three more years, does anyone still want Gase as our HC?

I dont think Gase will have any issue with what Ross said at all...Im sure he expects to make the playoffs.

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

How does it do either?

There's already been at least one potential example given in this thread already. What happens if the Dolphins go 9-7 next season, then 10-6, but miss the playoffs, and our starting QB in the third season gets injured, and we miss the playoffs again? That's a potential scenario. There are a myriad of potential scenarios where this one statement comes back to haunt him.

I just think it's a stupid thing to say.

"BigDogsHunt wrote:

3years is one thing....before he even coaches a single snap......but Ross saying: "Miami Dolphins owner sees new coach as “next Bill Belichick”" is just over the top.

He didnt say the next Bill Belichick ...he said Belichick, Parcells you know next great coach....he was speaking great coach in general.

"resnor wrote:

There's already been at least one potential example given in this thread already. What happens if the Dolphins go 9-7 next season, then 10-6, but miss the playoffs, and our starting QB in the third season gets injured, and we miss the playoffs again? That's a potential scenario. There are a myriad of potential scenarios where this one statement comes back to haunt him.

I just think it's a stupid thing to say.

Res I agree with alot of what you say...but in this case I think your over worrying

"vt_dolfan wrote:

Res I agree with alot of what you say...but in this case I think your over worrying

Yeah, I might be. But, now there's a quote out there that very well could come back to bite him.

"resnor wrote:

Yeah, I might be. But, now there's a quote out there that very well could come back to bite him.

Eh...maybe...but its way down the list of things to worry about.