Link doesn't work, but I'll check out the site.

 

I read a lot of excuses. What would Marino have done with his receiving crew? He would have dominanted! I'm thinking Brady would be pretty happy with it too.

Wilson's pass protection SUCKS, yet he doesnt get sacked often.

I'm not saying cut Tannehill, but I certainly think the QB spot is something to look at.

 

No QB should be happy with Hartline as a #2. Noone should be happy with Wallace as their #1 either without a strong compliment (which Hartline isn't)

So basically what it boils down to is that Brady would be happy with Jarvis Landry because I'd take Lafell and Edelman as a package over Wallace/Hartline.

 

It's tough to compare one situation to the next. As much of a Marino fan as I am (just like everyone on this site) I do think we tend to over-exaggerate his level of greatness...especially in the latter part of his career.

To me Brady is a bit of an enigma. Based on resume he's an all time great. But when you watch him closely, he has always struggled to throw deep and he's most effective when he's given all day in the pocket. When he's pressured, much like he was during our first meeting, those are the results you tend to get from him. Don't forget, that team went 11-5 with Matt Cassel.

As for Wilson, he's still in his third season a highly protected QB. A lot of high percentage passes and half field reads. He is elusive as hell though. Unlike C-Kap, Seattle has yet to be forced to go to plan B and make Wilson go through progressions in the pocket. I will be interested to see what that outcome will be.

I am bullish on Tannehill because I just think he looks the part...and for me that's half the battle. When I say look the part I mean a QB that doesn't tend to get rattled, has a nice release and throwing motion, can go through his progressions and doesn't run at the first sign of trouble. One thing Belichick preaches is for everyone to do their job and this is one area where this team has sorely lacked. The data coming out on this oline is about as bad as last season except now the capability of our receiving corps has dropped off dramatically.

I would be very curious to see how Tannehill would perform if everyone around him...would do their job.

 

Lots of legit "reasons" for this year's outcome there. Unless of course RT is also expected to get open and catch the ball too...which some here seem to believe.

Anybody complaining about RT with no answer is not looking at the big picture IMO.

I'd LOVE to know what Marino thinks of him. He's got to like him to spend time with him like he does...at least I'd hope so.

And for the "what would Marino do with these receivers, he'd light it up" crowd...they had some down years with Dan when he lacked weapons too...but that's conveniently forgotten. Remind me again please...how many rings did he win?

 

Umm, Wilson has been sacked just as many times as RTH. And according to PFF, Miami has worse pass blocking than Seattle.

As far as the Marino comparison, I don't know why someone would even begin to compare one of the best all time QB's to a guy who is a 3rd year player with limited starting experience and is currently ranked 16th in QB rating. No matter how much he improves, he will never be Marino. That's not a knock on RTH because very few ever are that good.

 

Careful...you'll all be labeled Tannehill lovers for espousing what I've been saying in threads nonstop. LOL

That was a great read, and well thought out. I liked this part of the conclusion:

 

This is all true, but if I may throw in to this as well, we must always draft QB's as well in the draft so for one, that we have a very capable backup if needed and two, so that we never get caught with our pants down again like we did when Marino Retired. A good choice for us this year that fits our offense to a "T" would be Rakeem Cato ( Marshall ). CK has a great work up on him in CLUB..You guys are really missing out that do not have club.CK also has an ongoing thread in Club on Cato with alot of Plays throughout the year ( Thanks CK ). Also it is very, very important to get the HC call right. The right HC/GM combo that we could keep here together would be HUGE for the long term success of " our " Franchise.

 

Look at GB vs Buf

Rodgers was looking human with his OL getting pushed around and WR's dropping freebies.

Funny how that works, isnt it? :up:

 

But, you still had a feeling Rodgers would bring them back right?

 

OK, I think most QB's would be happy with our receivers :)

I do agree we have needs everywhere ,but I do not think the receivers are the issue.

 

Since we want to talk about Marino and all...Marino would have been in jail after Sunday's game for a triple homicide, if he'd had three receivers drop TDs in a blowout loss. Of course, he wouldn't even have made it to that game, because he would have been arrested far earlier for murdering two or three of his linemen.

What QB in the league would trade his top two receivers for our #1 and #2 (Wallace/Hartline). You name the QB. There isn't a QB in the league that would be happy having one receiver who can't make a play on a ball that is thrown not 110% perfectly (and even then sometimes drops them), nor would they be happy with a receiver who runs comebacks, and gets no YAC because he trips over blades of grass.

 

what?

Tannehill said he wanted the throw to Marshall back, I think he would have been out of bounds on the play.

You have a valid point Marino would be pissed if someone made a mistake, made him a great leader. With his quick release he would not have been sacked.

So you are complaining about Wallace who made a one handed miracle catch for a TD. And the same Wallace who was wide open for an 80 yard TD, but had to stop and wait for the ball to get the 50 yard completion?

 

Better then 85% of all QBs drafted in the last ten years.

Yeh, he sucks.

 

http://www.thephinsider.com/2014/12/17/7406633/ryan-tannehill-is-not-the-problem

Try this.

 

Marino was a once in a lifetime QB. We aren't going to get another Marino folks.
Get over yourselves and stop using him as a standard.
This fanbase has expectations that are way too high. The QB isn't the problem currently.

 

What, didn't you hear? A good quarterback is supposed to be a magic solution for every problem a team has!

 

I agree with the article completely. Those who want t ditch RT because he's not one of the very best QBs in the league are just out of their minds. "The best or nothing" leaves you with nothing way more often than not.

 

It a crazy catch because Wallace made it harder than it had to be because he can't track balls well in the air. As to slowing up, again, I do put that on Wallace. If you bothered to watch other games, you'd see Brady, Rodgers, Brees, etc, all throw long balls short, more often than in stride, and it's VERY common to see receivers slow up earlier in their route so that they can explode to the ball, away from the defender, in the last couple of yards. Wallace, however, just runs full tilt down the field, not adjusting to the ball until the very last second. That is why he doesn't get many tds right now. I was commenting on this while watching the Desean a couple games ago, and the same day I commented on Moncrief doing it also. Wallace can't do it.

Yes, Wallace is an extremely limited receiver, when compared to true number one receivers.

 

most receivers make that catch with two hands without ever leaving their feet.

 

I agree. Tannehill has done well with what he has. Surround him with weapons. If he fails(I don't think he will), then we need to draft or trade for an upgrade. I would have to say the upgrade would have to come thru the draft though because as the article states of the current crop of Qb's only a few would be a lateral move and the rest would be a down grade.

 

I think it's a great article. Really hits the nail on the head. Been saying it for some time now. But, some want a scapegoat I suppose.

Look, is Tannehill a franchise QB right here right now? No. But, is he on the right path. You betcha. Now fix the O-line, get him some legitimate weapons, and get a freakin' HC that knows his head from his a$$ and see what happens. I say we turn it around and (finally) become a contender again if all those things are addressed this off-season.

Tannehill is NOT the problem!