There is little to no reason to play Henne much more than the first half. We benefit in a loss and this is a good opportunity to have Pat White reps against a defense that is playing for keeps.
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I hate the logic of "lets tank a game so that we get a higher draft pick"
That sure works out perfectly for Oakland, Detroit, Cleveland, St Louis and Buffalo doesnt it?
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I think Henne should play also just for experience like others said. It won't accomplish much to bench your future franchise qb. Plus I just don't see this team taking the game lightly or giving up,that is not the way Sparano and Parcells work.
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The day the Dolphins play to lose is the day I never attend another game and don't buy my season tickets, regardless of playoff potential, record or other reason.
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Is there a reason why you wanna have Pat take reps over Henne?, if were all about next year, then why not get the future at the position quality reps against a championship style defense.?..Or, do you think Pat is the future at the position?jetssuck, dolfan7171, LandShark13 and 1 other person like this.
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There is every reason in the world for Henne to play this week. He needs the experience.
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The more reps Henne can get in "live-game-action" the more it will help with his development.
I hate to play this card, because it's so overused, but it applies here:
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I never get tired of that rant for some reason..... :pointlol:dolphindebby, jetssuck, gafinfan and 4 others like this. -
What about the logic of getting other players reps against real competition. Or are you blind to that kind of logic.
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No, Henne is definitely the starting QB in my mind - hopefully for years to come. But that doesn't mean that Pat doesn't have a future with the team - as it is, he gets put in during critical situation almost every week. The one thing I've noticed with Pat is that he almost never passes, and I'm not sure he has even completed a pass. I can only think part of this has to do with his lack of reps. It sure would be nice to have Pat be an actual threat when he does go in.
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That wasn't directed at me and yet I still found it a little insulting. I happen to agree with the others, we have a very young QB who we expect to be the future of the franchise and he needs all the experience he needs. Let white do as Henne did and learn on the sideline and then spend the off season getting ready for next year. :knucks:Irish Phin Fan, dolphindebby, TheAnswer385 and 2 others like this.
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Given the current state of officiating, I'm not so sure. I mean doesn't Brady play by "Jordan Rules"?
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Sorry if you took that to be insulting. I mean the guy went "one star" without even addressing the whole post. Do you suppose that could have been taken as insulting by me?
Don't make the assumption that I'm saying benching Henne equates to losing the game. Admittedly there is more of a risk to losing by benching Henne, but that risk is mitigated through better draft position. That looks like a win-win to me.
And I'm more concerned about giving Pat White reps who the coaches seem to want on the field, but don't yet have confidence in letting him pass - along with reducing injury risk to Henne.
But if someone wants to change what I wrote into "throwing a game" for draft position, then I'm not sure I care much about their feelings. -
That's a bit extreme. I mean the better draft pick, the risk of losing Henne to injury in a meaningless game, the opportunity to develop Pat White a bit more...
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There's an outside chance we can get in the playoffs. A win is necessary to accomplish this.
Barring that outside chance fails even with a W I would rather go out knowing we finished with a W rather than a L.dolphindebby, Dolphins1Beatles, BigDogsHunt and 1 other person like this. -
I think Henne should play the whole game to gain that experience he would need in the future. Besides I believe I read somewhere that Sparano is going to start him to "evaluate him".
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I have to respectfully disagree my Cali brother. Every game is so valuable to our future success. :wink2:
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The playing time is 10X more valueable for Henne than White. White is nowhere in the picture of our future as a starting QB so there is no reason in my mind to waste a game by playing him. That's what the pre-season is for.
While it's a small chance I want to see how Henne plays in this game when there is some hope on the line.
And the idea of Miami throwing a game for draft position makes me sick to my stomach.
I think Thigpen has a better chance to being a pro level starter than White.dolfan7171 likes this. -
First off :up:
Secondly I never made the assumption that you wanted him benched so that we would lose the game. I just think of the two quarterbacks in question its way more beneficial to the team to give Henne the work. He needs all the work he can get reading defenses and as its already been expressed the Steeler defense is a great learning opportunity for him to develop further. If this was the end of the year and Penny was still our starter I would lean toward giving Henne some playing time same as you wanting to see PW start. The Difference? Henne needs the work too were as Penny doesn't.
As for as getting PW experience he has already gotten a lot more playing time than Henne got his first year. Lets hope this serves him well as time goes on. :knucks:NoCalFinFan, jetssuck and dolfan7171 like this. -
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Long term who do you see White our number 2 qb or Thigpen?
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So far from what I have seen of them both, I would take Thigpen over White but hey, I'm not the one who spent a 2nd round Draft pick on him.:tongue2:
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Quite honestly, as far as true QB, White is really the third stringer.
There is nothing more important to the franchise at this juncture than having Henne see more and more time.
You know what I think?
The ONLY reason they would do this is in hopes White does light it up so it ups his trade value this off-season :yes:jetssuck, dolfan7171, gafinfan and 2 others like this. -
Nothing would make me happier than to get our 2nd round pick back :lol:dolfan7171, azfinfanmang and gafinfan like this.
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Brother I agree Thigpen is really our number 2 qb. I think he has a lot to offer.dolfan7171, azfinfanmang and Crappy Tipper like this.
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I agree.
I saw him in 4 or 5 games with the Chefs, and all he did was impress the hell out of me.
He is accurate, has a very strong arm and is perhaps as good on the run as White, just probably not as fast.
I have a feeling with the aquisition of Thigpen for next to nothing, and the very very nice development of Henne (This kid Will be an All-pro before its over) the FO is kindve wishing they had gone a different direction with that second round pick.
Of course, hind-site is always 20-20.
BTW: Very good to see you brother, Mama says Happy New Year.dolfan7171 and Crappy Tipper like this. -
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a major dose of Pat White would be appropriate
would like to give Thigpen a few snaps
then turn it over to the IceMan to finish up in the second half
the way our first halves have been going
might as well experiment, maybe we'll catch them off guard
we need to know what Pat White can do under center
& especially w/ the WildCat & Spread offense
I say we can still play to win,
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This year, Thigpen
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Perhaps, but why do you say that?
I believe he is to date 0-3? Passing so far?
He has been clutch on a couple of key plays, but I just don't ever see him as a conventional QB what-so-ever, and the same argument I have against that is the same I have with a Reggie Bush in, and that is, you only get a couple of "Gadget-Plays" each game. -
I literally feel sick when I see White at QB :lol:
He looks like a high school sophomore playing against men.late again and NaboCane like this. -
ooh that is a bad idea
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One thing I will say, I don't think Henne is going to have a confidence problem.
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this thread is fictional anyway....
if they start white and give thigpen snaps in the Pitt game in the 1st half
insert Henne in the second half
that would be a nightmare
it is a dumb idea
Henne starts and plays
we have a miracle chance LOL
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I understand your position better after reading your subsequent posts than from the first:
I think if you had put a bit more of your thoughts into the original post you wouldn't have gotten this much **** about it.dolphan117, dolfan7171, azfinfanmang and 2 others like this.
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