not sure why anyone would have thought that Thigpen was our savior, especially with the injuries piling up. Thigpen is nothing more than a good backup QB.

As far as Kolb, I have seen no evidence that he's any better than Henne.

 

It's time to reconsider Henne and show some faith in the kid..

As evident by last nights game, the fact that Henne led us to 5-4 with this squad says more about Henne than many of us are willing to admit.

 

I agreed with the decision to shake things up and essentially try Pennington, but now that I've see Thigpen play. I have grown to truly appreciate Henne.. Funny, Henne is the first QB in Miami since Marino to show flashes of brilliance and many of us, including the shock-jock media were ready to dump on him.. The real people that need to be dumped reside on the coaching staff.

 

Maybe I'm missing something, but what else could it possibly mean?

Nevermind all the reports that surfaced in the weeks prior to the benching from respected sources inside the league, but the actual guys who drafted him decided he wasn't the guy who should be leading this team for a playoff push.

Short of being cut, I cannot think of a more damning indictment for a young player.

 

if anything, the premature benching gave me a nice stiff kick in the pants to not have faith in this regime. not henne.

 

In all fairness, I'm really starting to question the judgment of our FO and coaching staff anyway.

 

exactly this

 

I'm not saying I agree with the decision SICK, but after what transpired two weeks ago, how can you bring both parties (Sparano/Ireland and Henne) back into the fold for the 2011 season and expect fans and teammates to sign off on it?

Doesn't there have to be a change with one of the parties?

 

^Yeah, but if you don't have anyone better to replace him, what good does it do to bench a guy? If this staff thought Pennington was the answer, their drugs are WAY better than mine and slightly better than the 23rd's.

We should give Henne an extenstion after last night.

In baseball, they have adjusted stats to account for playing in bigger ballparks. We need to adjust Henne's stats for playing under this abortion of a coaching staff.

 

At this point someone has to go.. Not necessarily Sparano, the decision to bench Henne was his decision but pressure may have been mounting from multiple angles to do so.. Parcells needs to sign on with another team, gut half our coaching staff, gut the bottom of the roster and give either Sparano or someone else a new shot at fixing this ship.

 

In my opinion, one of those two have to go if not both.

 

I thought this thread was discussion regarding the team's confidence in Henne, and not necessarily the fan's perception of the situation.

These are two completely different things.

Call me crazy, but if Sparano and Ireland are still here next season, I just don't see how they could possibly in good faith bring Henne back as their starting QB. They've already given up on him. Maybe we as fans have not, but they most certainly have..

 

Jake Locker is more like Jake Joker. Have you seen some of the games he has had this year?

Now if we could get Ryan Mallett...that would be HUGE!

 

check my sig bro, i want sparano held accountable the same way they hold the players accountable. i want jim harbaugh as HC 2011 :up:

 

That's it right there. They have given up on him. I would still be in his corner if he didn't stare down every receiver, but he does. Defenses will continue to eat him alive if he doesn't stop.

I think it's funny how people are saying Henne would have done better then Thigpen. Henne is alot less mobile then Henne. He would have been sacked 12 times last night behind that terrible make shift line.

 

Hyde was right on this account.

 

did you qutoe me again by accident? cause i dont think this post pertains to my quote... :huh:

 

That is exactly it. The switch was just a desperation move. What should have happened, is maybe we should have told Henning to change things up. However, good luck ever getting that guy to realize anything is wrong. He's too damn stubborn. Look how many times an offense has changed OC's and drastically improved. Of course the regime can complain he's "not the guy", because maybe he's not the guy that fits their offense. If that is the case, then... why did we draft him, as opposed to a guy that would fit. If the guy doesn't fit the offense, and you know he's got the tools (which we know he does), maybe, just maybe its time to change the philosophy on offense.

As for your sig... Harbaugh for 2011 HC, I've been hearing things around my area that if Michigan fires Rodriguez, they may chase him bigtime.

 

henne was getting no running help either. 11 rushes against the ravens in a close game is absurd as well.....where was the defenders on that one?!!?

 

I didn't mean to quote anyone, I just clicked the wrong button initially. Fixed.

I, too, have lost all confidence in Sparano. He needs to be sent packing this offseason.

 

But hey...we are a running team. That is who we are...WE WON'T CHANGE WHO WE ARE!

If I ever hear Tony say that crap again....

Well, just know it wouldn't be pretty.

 

No offense, but I think the bolded part is a bunch of crap. It sounds like something you'd read in an article on the Dolphins official website.

Its PR spin to make an ugly truth seem more tolerable. Lipstick on a pig, if you will.

 

He didn't really avoid any sacks with his feet though. He did run for some yardage Henne wouldn't have, but as far as sacks go, Henne would have avoided some by throwing it away. You can't just assume he would have been sacked twice as many times if he were healthy.

 

Agreed. One thing we can say about Henne is he's pretty good at getting rid of it to avoid a sack. I don't believe he goes down that many times last night. There are times when checking down is ok.

 

The issues go way past QB. Thigpen never stood a chance last night. It could have been Vick, Rivers, whomever, and the same thing would have happened with the attrocious gameplan they were given. I would rather have a new RT than a new QB at this point.

 

Sparano needs to go because this team's problem is with execution. No player carries out his assignments consistently except maybe Wake and Dansby. The breakdowns, the missed tackles, the dropped balls, the mental mistakes are constant. If it's not one thing, it's another, on virtually every play. That is a function of the head coach and his assistants failing to instill discipline, because not every player can be bad. It's a function of a non-working system.

You saw the Bears last night. every player executed, did what he was supposed to, perfectly just about every time. That is what a team coached to discipline looks like. Discipline in practice brings consistency, and only then does talent come through. The head coach is supposed to bring it about through a regimen. Think Shula and how the players used to dread practice, but think of the results. His record tells the story.

Sparano simply doesn't know how. He needs to go somewhere as an assistant and learn how, because he learned nothing under Parcells, who is the ultimate culprit in this debacle. If this is how "Parcells guys" perform after three years, I want no part of them.

Henne is not the problem. Neither is Nolan, other than his failure to stress the fundamentals. What we are is an average team riddled by injuries. We need a system to take us to good, one step at a time.

 

Would it have made a difference if Thigpen was the guy to start against the Titans rather than Pennington? Would that extra week of preparation to start have mattered last night? I understand that Pennington is a guy the coaching staff is comfortable with but what exactly do you prove by scoring more with a QB without a future? I did not say win games because even scoring an additional 4 points a week would not necessarily mean more wins. Then of course there was the injury question, which reared its ugly head on the first play of the Titans game. Was this decision to play it safe yet another tactical error made by Sparano? Has it cost the Dolphins more than just a game but an entire season?

 

Vince Young. The kid nearly committed suicide because he got benched. Look at him now. Starting QB again.

 

It would have mattered in the sense that they used Friday and Saturday to gameplan for Chicago, with no clue that two QBs would get hurt on Sunday.

 

Yeah the same guy who couldn't be bothered to warm up and see if his ankle was alright and just said "Let Kerry start". I understand the point, but how much of him being the starter comes down to 'we don't have anyone else worth a ****.'

 

Yeah because he just lite up the scoreboard right? You do understand there is a difference moving the ball and scoring?? Not trying to be a hater but Henne has been nothing special. However I am willing to let him finish the season and see what he can do.

 

it wont matter if marino is playing qb, this playcalling is a travesty. I dont think anyone should hold ANY of our qbs success or lack of it, on this season. because its obvious the entire offense is ridiculous.

 

Hyde is correct, except I don't know if Henne goes. I think it's much more likely that Sparano and Co. get the ax...except Mike Nolan. I think he has job security if he wants to stay.

 

I was at that disaster last night and the O-line was the worst I've seen it since 2007. It was a freakin' sieve. All night I was wondering why Henning was not having Thigpen roll out one way or another to by some time. There was no running lanes and there was even less pass protection. If the FO doesn't get the o-line healthy we are done. Jake Grove is still available and if he is healthy enough we need to resign him today.

 

regardless if Henne is our future we still need to address the QB position to avoid whats currently happening.