Thanks again Obama

 

They deserve to be raked over the coals probably even more than they're going to be for this. What in the everliving **** is wrong with this team?

 

How the **** is that legal?

 

Welcome to your wonderful new ACA future :) I run a small business and just had to deal with changing insurance plans myself. Been absolutely hosed...

 

Seriously. Who looks at this and says "yes, that is the correct thing to do".

I hope they get torn apart in the media.

 

That is seriously screwed up if true. No reason a guy shouldn't stay on payroll if he can do an effective job reviewing tape from home. I understand it isn't ideal but I bet having a terminally ill wife isn't ideal either.

If they fired him for being a bad scout...fine. That is legitimate. He doesn't deserve job handouts, many people have issues like his. However if he is an effective worker.... this makes me sick a bit inside.

 

"The cost of one prescription skyrocketed from $10 to $3,000 per pill under the new policy" ??? and i thought the UK Government sucked!...well not so much thought...its fact. Feel bad for Nate Sullivan. Harsh doesn't even go half way.

 

wow that is horrible ... I'm glad this is a front office issue and not a team issue though... this will have no effect on the football side but on the business side we're still dysfunctional.

 

Companies change their plans all the time as they try to save more. It's not per person, it's typically for all employees. If the Dolphins were trying to cut healthcare costs by not buying into plans that support that medicine then I imagine thats what it was. Typically, it is still available but you have to get a higher plan. But, your plan typically doesn't officially change until after open enrollment is done. So....in essence....getting fired actually helps you in that when you get a new job you can go to an employer who covers the medicine under that benefit.

As for getting fired. It depends on the particular situation. If you have a scout that NEVER comes to work, regardless of his situation, and this has been going on for 10 years (or however many 3 GMs goes back) you can imagine that at some point you are going to get canned.

 

Terrible if true. The drug allegation should carry a paper trail. I just noticed the lawyer claimed that cystic fibrosis was the only TERMINAL medical condition whose drugs were excluded...which implies that other drugs were excluded as well, just not terminal ones. That could give the Dolphins some cover to claim one had nothing to do with the other.

But the claim that he was fired for the arrangement still remains. Most people would think it's the employer's discretion whether the arrangement works or not but I'm not so sure. I'm not a lawyer but I think the fact that the guy already had an arrangement with his employer that worked for 10 years under three different GMs will come into play. Dennis Hickey is not the guy's employer. The Miami Dolphins are his employer. His employer didn't change when Hickey was hired, only his supervisor. If this arrangement worked fine for 10 years under three different supervisors then I could imagine there being legal grounds for this.

 

Just saying I want to know who gets to pocket that $2,990 markup.

 

Its an unfortunate set of circumstances but ultimately it will fall on Ross and his insurance policies if they cover this situation.I am guessing a settlement will be most likely to occur.

 

Are you saying a GM doesn't have the authority to dismiss a scout? For work related issues of course. I can't imagine Hickey discriminating against the scout for any reason. If Hickey did that then Miami deserves to get sued.

 

Last year or so? Deadspin is being way too kind...

The Dolphins are a TMZ dream that makes the Jets look good.

 

This is deplorable if true.

 

Idiot owner that is never around, that's what's wrong.

 

If he fired the scout for performance reasons then that is fine but keep in mind Dennis Hickey is not Sullivan's employer. The Miami Dolphins are/were Sullivan's employer. Hickey is just his latest supervisor. From Sullivan's standpoint he had an arrangement with his employer, abided by three previous supervisors, and now he's being fired because this particular supervisor has decided that an arrangement that has worked for ten years does not work for him as a supervisor.

Yeah, he's got a case. It'll have its day in court.

 

The obvious answer here is that things didn't really work previously, hence Hickey being hired. Hes been hired because the team wanted change from past performance. This isn't anything uncommon when you see new management.

Hell, the first thing Marissa Miller did when she took over Yahoo was eliminate remote work. And she is the CEO of one of the largest tech companies in the world. We always hear the term "agent of change".

The real question is whether he was told he could keep his job if he stopped working remotely.

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The cost of those pills though.
change you can believe in.

 

As a person with their own terminal illness, it doesn't surprise me to see medication not covered by insurance to be that expensive. In my case, I've seen EOBs for name brand medication be over $2,000 for fill. I'd wager it was a similar situation for Sullivan's wife.

To play Devil's advocate, I don't think that just because Sullivan had a wife with a terminal illness that should preclude him from being fired for cause. Maybe he wasn't working up to Miami's standards? Maybe he was taking advantage of his situation? Who is to say, we've only heard one side of the story.

That being said, a classy organization like the Steelers or the Seahawks wouldn't go about their business in the manner that Miami has. It's beyond pathetic at this point, and it's not going to get any better until Ross sells the team.

 

Maybe this is Ross's way of saving up for stadium renovations.

I'm going to vomit.

 

The intent to litigate letter is intended to get the Dolphins to reinstate him and cover his wife's medical bills. Essentially the guy just wants his job back and wants his wife to be cared for. Anyone making an attempt to demonize him should keep that firmly in mind. The guy worked for the Dolphins for 17 years. For 17 years he was a member of the Dolphins family, and then they decided to fire him. I'm just saying, put yourself in his shoes.

 

Are the Dolphins or the insurance company on the hook for that? As a business, I would think the Dolphins have the right to select the HCP/plan that's best for the company.

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Fertility drugs alone for my wife and I were around 10k, easy.

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The Steelers are about as far from a classy organization as you can get.

 

There's some posts in here that lead me to believe there was a gas leak or head trauma festival and consequently POFO is leaking.

What does this have to do with the ACA? Employers were always free to negotiate the nature of their coverage on the behalf of their employees in group coverage situations. The allegation here has absolutely nothing to do with any sort of government mandate or change, it's that the Dolphins negotiated a change in their benefits to **** over a specific employee that they wanted to get rid of.

Further, it's ignoring one of the fundamental elements of the ACA applicable in this case that should be incredibly easy to understand. If she's left without coverage because the team manages to successfully **** her and her husband over, she's probably not going to die because she can't get healthcare because of her condition.

 

I just don't understand how a team could be so inept at NOT looking like a cartoon villain. Dick Dastardly is shaking his head in disgust.

 

This franchise is a joke.

 

Thanks for sharing.

 

The accusation being levied is that the Dolphins targeted Sullivan specifically because of his wife's illness.

These type of situations essentially come down to who a jury will believe. Hopefully the Dolphins don't let it come to that, and they settle with Sullivan.

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ITT: Terminal Illness drug prices were cheap before Obama.

 

I do think it odd that a scout could work from home, as in home based or strictly from home?

As for the public image, do tend to agree, it is as if there is something in the water in Davie that causes temporary loss of the ability to see the big picture. I hope a equitable settlement is reached and Sullivan finds employment in his field elsewhere.

What scouts do, and which players they identify that work out for the franchise is one of the things that is shrouded in the miasma of "it stays in the building" do think our drafts for the most part have been sub par for a long long time.

 

I think that the Dolphins have been very unhappy with this arrangement for a long time. It's just that previous GMs didn't want the storm of bad publicity and kept this guy on the payroll.

Without having done the job I cannot say this for a fact, but I believe that it is very important for scouts to actually go out and see/talk to people and to come in to the office for round table discussions about prospects. I'd say that a long term working from home arrangement would be a serious barrier to getting this guy to work in the role he is paid to do.

The other issue, and I am going to sound heartless for saying this, is that ten years is a long time for a terminal illness patient to be about. Legally terminal illnesses are defined as illnesses that are likely to kill someone within 2 years in most jurisdictions. When the Dolphins agreed to the work from home arrangement I bet they didn't think they would be signing on for 10+ years of working from home. The phins have gone way further than the majority of companies would have done already.

In short this sucks and looks bad for the Phins. It also is a problem that should have been sorted out by Spielman or Ireland, but they avoided the problem because they didn't want the bad publicity. Which leads to the legal problems that CK points out.

In essence this is the story of the phins since Wannstadt. There's an obvious problem which gets ignored and pushed into the future until it becomes a complete disaster for everybody involved.

 

The Dolphins are not having the tough conversations with their players and personnel. The culture of that organization is starting to get repaired. The $3000 per pill was what the Dolphins were paying as a self insured company. If your company is not trying to cut excess, than you must not be living in the US. I really see no case that the employee could have against the franchise as he is free to work for a company that offers benefits that cover that drug.

 

Go hang out with your Jets fan buddies then.

 

Hobby Lobby case - the ACA runs all health care plans now. I'm not saying what the true story is, and I withhold judgement because I know employers can't just willy nilly exclude things because they want to. The ACA mandates minimum requirements so I'm curious how this all plays out.

How many do the Dolphins employ? I'm curious if they're big enough to negotiate things like that vs smaller companies that much choose from cookie cutter plans.

 

It's just that the morons known as middle class Republicans look for any excuse to blame Obama for anything possible. :pity:

 

I like you Mr. Clean but you take a lot of pofo shots outside of Pofo every chance you get. Very unbecoming.

But I like you anyway. Because you like Mike Wallace and so do I ;)