I'm all for renovations and would have voted yes to the public funding option to renovate JRS. With that being said, it's almost impossible to fully support this ownership group when they engage in threatening tactics and bush-league strategies.
We spent an entire offseason splashing big in free agency, had a solid draft, have an exciting young team, QB and coaching staff, and instead of basking in the glory of this, everyone is worried about the future and long term status of the team in Miami due to a rushed, rammed down your throat, sudden desire to modernize and improve JRS.
We weren't even talking about stadium modifications 6 months ago and now this team is at risk to leave South Florida?
Great job shooting yourselves in the foot, Ross and Dee.. Build up anticipation for this season, do everything you can to improve the team, change your logo then deflate all that work by creating doom and gloom scenarios after Goodell forced a bribe on you to secure a Super Bowl.. All that, done in an expedited fashion rammed down everyone's throat like it was the end of the world. Despite all that, you fully anticipated that your expedited bill would sail through the legislature and pass with the voters without even thinking of the consequences or pushing back on the NFL in order to develop a winning strategy.
Don't like it one bit.
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The things is, the renovations were supposed to happen as far as they were concerned. They got blindsided. There hope was to make over the team, the look and the stadium all in one year. Its ambitious, but not necessarily wrong.
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Just compartmentalize. Sucks having this stuff be an issue, but need to try and separate it from the football side. This isn't necessarily a Ross and Dee issue only, it affects a lot of people in South Florida. Hopefully it gets resolved soon, so we don't have a cloud over the franchise for a number of years n -
In fact, now I question this free agent spending spree. It all may have been a nice little farce to drum up voter support.
If they failed, who cares, lets sell the team and let the next ownership group deal with it.MikeHoncho likes this. -
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Ross seems like a good owner but he does have a tin ear sometimes.
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The vision of rebranding down to the stadium was absolutely the right idea imo, but I think Rush has a point, stress the word think, because I'm still trying to figure sh$& out, but to react in such a doom and gloom way doesn't seem healthy for the culture and relationship between fan and team, however, I'm not sure if the tactics are'nt on purpose to achieve some sort of leverage.
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at the end of the day, the product on the field is the one that counts, so you are
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They didn't count anything. By your logic, no one should make any major move unless its guaranteed to work.
They were bold, they were ambitious. Just because something doesn't work, doesn't mean the people behind the attempt were inept or it was wrong to try.
One guy they thought they had in their corner, betrayed what they thought, that's the kink in the line and short of holding his loved ones hostage there's really no other way to fix that.NCFINFAN, DOLPHAN1 and unluckyluciano like this. -
No one has made any threats. Ross has repeatedly said that he isnt going to sell the team while alive. He said he cant guarantee that the next owner after he dies (hopfully not for a couple decades) wont move the team, but that he has ZERO intention of our team playing anywhere else than South Florida.
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Timeout. Why does everyone think these are new threats by the NFL or Ross just made up these renovations hisself? We have had threads and article going back to 2009 on these major renovations. Goodell didn't just start talking about this in 2012. This has been coming for some time. This is just where the rubber is starting to meet the road.
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Lets not overreact to the talk about the phins future being bleak. Its part of the process, they're playing hardball. You should know exactly why Dee said those things.
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In Dallas they spent 1.2 billion on a new stadium because Jones knows that unless he makes the game experience special, sooner or later the attendance will go down cause Hidef tv and sound is a big competitor, just stay home with friends and watch all 3 games.
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I'm not arguing about the validity of the request. I am arguing about the methodology in doing it in this expedited manner, then throwing your hands up in the air and acting like the world is ending when your expecting outcome (which didn't seem to be realistic) didn't happen.
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How about this as a response ; "As promised, Ross has no intention of moving the team out of Miami. While we are very disappointed in the outcome and the legislatures inability to vote on this, we are confident that these much needed renovations will get done and we will not stop fighting until this is resolved"
Do you think the response to blast Weatherford, make veiled threats of relocation when Ross sells the team to the highest bidder and then throwing a hissy fit was the right course of action?djphinfan likes this. -
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Basically Ross spent millions of dollars on a race car, after he signs on the dotted line, he finds out the car doesn't have an engine, transmission, steering wheel, brakes, gas pedal, gas tank or wheels. We are witnessing his reaction to that.
Again, I think the local government should have just given him every tax break possible instead of handing over money, but this is the way our government works....people are able to buy and sell votes.NCFINFAN likes this. -
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What about the theory that the NFL was just bluffin really, tried to help the owner get some partial funds, and now that it didnt work, once the new venues are rewarded ( which was gonna happen anyway) were right back in the rotation? -
Step 1 is create the controversy. Step 2 will be damage control where they reframe the events of what happened as Weatherford going back on his word and denying the people a voice, blah, blah, blah.
Ask yourself who has the better chance and resources to spin this: Ross or Weatherford?
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