I keep seeing posters thrash the defense. I get it. 39 points were scored. But I don't think that really tells the story.
This game wasn't a "no-show" IMO. They were injured and exhausted. They did a pretty decent job in the first half. The TD at the end of the half was frustrating, but I saw that as schematic failure (soft zone) and Taylor subbing in for the injured starter Finnegan. Taylor sucks... We all know this. Never mind the suckage beyond him on the "depth" chart.
This defense hasn't looked bad all year. Maybe they've had some iffy games or moments, but never outright terrible, until today. That should tell you this was an anomaly. We've played much better against equal competition, IMO. Today's defensive performance comes at a horrible time, sure... And it stings that the offense played well. But the second half tells the tale, IMO.
In the 2nd half, the story was clearly exhaustion. The team looked dead. Missed tackles, out of position, etc... Say what you want about "good team don't fold, etc...) but homefield played a huge role today. In fact, if this game was in Miami, we win and our D preforms much better. I truly believe that. And this is coming from one of the most pessimistic posters at TP.
I hate this loss as much as anybody, but I don't think it's fair to say the D isn't good. Maybe not as great as advertised (top 3), but certainly they're legit top 8 in the NFL. We played a good team and had a number of issues going against us.
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I disagree. The defense, all year, have failed to close out teams. 3rd and 15+? Don't even put our defense on the field. It's been a problem all year. Against good teams, we look downright mediocre. This defense is a fraud. I get that today we weren't full strength, but this has been all season.
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No, the defense could have held them to 3 points, thereby still having an 8 point lead, in your scenario. The defense would look even worse if Denver doesn't miss that field goal, and Manning doesn't fart on a couple deep throws that should have been completed.
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The defensive strategy/calls at the end of the 1st half and in the redzone were the primary culprit. Poor tackling and bad angles from the secondary did not help things, but strategy-wise, Kevin Coyle was playing with less than a full deck...unfortunately he dealt the deck himself.
I think you somewhat had to expect Denver to run successfully. They were bringing in tackle-eligble players all day and double-teaming both of the DTs Miami had in the game.
Bill Belichick's always said that to beat Peyton Manning that you have to disrupt receivers and make them run. Miami's D, and CBs primarily, don't fit that. I think Kevin Coyle tried that and was doing a good job until that last drive in the 1st half. He flubbed that and Denver found success running right at Miami and Coyle never recovered.
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OK... I'm not saying the defense played well. I'm saying, the defense was tired and the altitude killed them. Defensive talent is not the issue.
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Defense had a really bad day. Couldn't tackle, apply pressure, cover or scheme correctly. It was in Denver against Peyton Manning. It happens.
I have all the faith in the defense bouncing back from this.ElNino and dolphindebby like this. -
I don't think Taylor sucks, he had the one bad play. He was clearly better than the dregs who followed.
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Exhausted? They had ten days to recover from their last game, the sad fact is not one player made a play when we needed big plays, as banged up as they might have been there were still alot of star players on the field for them who disappeared today. Wake was invisible as we're most of them. I mean did Denver punt more than once?
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they were awful, and in the end if one defensive player would have made one play the dolphins win that game. the offense did everything they possibly could to win that game and the defense did everything to lose it.
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You have to give Anderson some credit, dudes. The kid is a load. He beat us singlehandedly. He was falling forward for 3 or 4 yards after contact, consistently.
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Give me a break, we just faced the best QB in NFL history, on the road, with Walk Aikens, Lowell Rose, and Jimmy Wilson playing the majority of the game, what did you guys expect to happen on defense?
If we had Finnegan and Taylor for the entire game this would of been a different story.first&goal, unluckyluciano and Alex44 like this. -
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I put more blame on Coyle here. We could not cover to save our lives, and thats fine considering who we played and who was healthy. We needed to blitz all second half though. Needed to send the house all second half. Guys were waltzing around wide open anyway.
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I could have sworn I saw double teams on Wake.
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Hmmm..dude, Peyton was getting rid of the ball extremely fast, there is no pressuring that. Unless you press the Denver wideouts, Peyton is going to get rid of the ball in 2 seconds, and you have no shot getting pressure.ElNino likes this. -
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We had those guys stopped a number of times though. Certain penalties like Wilson's illegal use of hands kept them going. Starks had a neutral zone infraction that gave them a first down and it might have been Wilson who gave them 15 yards on unnecessary roughness on a play they were stopped for no gain I think. More disciplined play would have taken 4-8 points off the board for Denver IMO.
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That garbage drive before half time was the beginning of the end. You could see momentum and confidence on the Broncos faces when they went in at half time. Just have to hold them to a field goal there. I mean it was what 3rd and 20 and we gave it up? Some really bizarre inexplicable crap happened in that game on defense. Should have won that game, its incredibly frustrating how close we are to being like 9-2 and having beat some of the best teams in the league. But at the same time this might be as good as this team gets, we might have peaked with this coaching staff. Its tempting to want to reload and see what we can do next year but its tempting to blow it up again. Whew. Tough game. Exhausting.
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Miami was unable to cope with the Broncos power package. It isn't something you should have expected, but it's something they should have adjusted for better.
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As iffy as Taylor has been, the entire dynamics of the game changed when he left. Rose and Aikens were toast and we all knew it. Is there any word on Finnegan? We need him back.
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I didn't expect them to win today, but I certainly expected the defense to put up a better effort than they did today. If the defense was as exhausted as you say they were, they have no one to blame but themselves.
The offense certainly did their part by keeping the Broncos defense on the field for the majority of the first half. Perhaps if the players on defense had made some tackles or covered the receivers of the Broncos in the second half, they could have gotten off the field and they would have been able to get some rest on the sideline.
As far as this being a top 8 defense. Perhaps they are a top 8 defense when they play against the bottom tier or the other mediocre teams in the league, but against the better teams in the NFL, they have for the most part proved to be average or below against these teams. Especially when the game is on the line in the closing minutes of the game.LI phinfan likes this. -
When your offense puts up 36 points and yet the defense still can't make the plays to prevent the other team from out scoring your team, that is on the players on the field and not on the coaches on the sideline.
If you are going to blame the coaches for the terrible play of the defense today, you must also give them all the credit for the play of the offense.
As far as your suggestion that the Dolphins should have gone to a 5-2 defense to stop the run. Based on all the room the defensive backs were giving to the Broncos receivers, all stopping the Broncos running game with a 5-2 defense would have done was create move space in the secondary for Manning to complete passes.
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Couldn't stop the run. I didn't really think we would sack Manning but put him out out of his comfort zone.
When you run the football like they did. Makes it tough.
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Don't look past the home field advantage. Tough environment to play a long game in. Not an excuse, but something to take into consideration... keep in mind theyre 6-0 at home now. Its not like we're the first ones to struggle up there.
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