http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...t-position-moving-forward-20150322-story.html
How do see this affecting other decisions if this is indeed the way they go??
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I'm all for him getting a shot. His A$$ needs more playing time one way or another. Between he and Vernon, I think we can survive against the run. He might be a real weapon against the pass. It's going to be the consistency that determines things. A great play here or there doesn't mean anything for a LB. You better show up and make the tough physical tackle 9 times out of 10.
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I would love that. Draft a MLB, Jenkins, and either McCain or Dion Jordan at OLB and I think they are set especially with that beast defensive line playing in front of them. Imagine the blitz packages Jordan could give with that defensive line? Good in pass defense against tight ends too.
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I would get him on a tough regiment of running, agility, etc and give him a shot as a LB. LB is such a big need for the team. That would give us a lot more wiggle room in the draft and he seems to have the potential. With his size, speed and ability to block passes, that could possibly be a great fit.
I do think DB is a big need for the team. I am almost at the point of wanting to pick Trey Waynes if he is there, though I doubt he will be.gunn34 and Phins Up Wins Up like this. -
It's less something they should be considering, and more something they should have figured out at this point.
Either way, they need to make him more of an edge rusher than he's been the last couple years. The experiment to turn him into Julius Peppers or Mario Williams or what have you didn't work.dolphin25 likes this. -
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Good God. Give him a position, tell him what to do in the offseason and give him an entire training camp and preseason at the position already. I mean this coaching staff is just ridiculous at this point.
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I honestly wonder if we arent better going 3/4....although I know that will never happen this season.
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With a coach like that the Dolphins could have easily transitioned. DeAndre Coleman played in a base 3-4 at Cal and was an outstanding run stuffer at NT and 5-tech. Earl Mitchell played 0-tech for the Texans. It may turn out that Terrence Fede's best position may be as a pass rushing 5-tech.
Misi's best position imo would be 3-4 thumper and everyone in the world knows the best football Dion Jordan ever played was in the Joker role at Oregon.
Dolphins already have all the pieces and more than they need to run a base 3-4 and if Danny Shelton were there at 14 the synergy with Suh could be something the NFL has never seen.
Actually with the all the versatility this DL already has, talent wise...they should running every kind of front in existence, including a lot of unbalanced stuff. Dolphins have the personnel to utterly baffle offenses; and that's without even drafting any new personnel.
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If anything, you switch to a 4-3 similar to Denver's, with Dion in a Von Miller type role...GARDENHEAD, CashInFist, Phins Up Wins Up and 1 other person like this. -
The article doesn't make it sound like Tannenbaum and co. are high on Jordan in any way. On one hand, it points out Jordan would be competing for depth on DE, that they might draft LB ("one or two") in the draft, and that Jordan might compete with McCain (who the coaches "love") for LB, etc..
Guy is 90% bust so far, and this write-up isn't helping change that perception IMO.dolphin25 likes this. -
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please let this be true. btw, anyone see this article? lol
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...best-fit-for-dion-jordan?campaign=Twitter_atl
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I feel like they needed to just stick him somewhere by now this is ruining any shot this kids has at a career lol
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I think this may be my favorite part about the Tannebaum hire is that he realizes talent regardless of draft status or age or guaranteed money.
He has done his best so shed the fat from our Salary Cap and of course we have a ton of dead money but he has us set up for some money available next year with some big contracts due with RT17, Pouncey, Miller, and Vernon.
In regards to Dion, I think anyone who has watched him in a pure pass rush position he struggles. He doesn't have a wide array of pass rush moves or killer bend in his body like Wake. He has desirable size but it comes with untouched athleticism for that size. The fact Mr. T pointed out he was 60 yards down field with Calvin, is nice to hear. Because in past years its all about forcing him to be a DE. Regardless of what happens the face they are identifying Jordan and McCain as possible SLB is a real benefit for our team this year and for the future. We need the best players on the field at one time.mlb1399 and PhinFan1968 like this. -
Soilia, Starks, Odrick, McDaniel, Shelby at DL. Dansby, Burnett, Wake, Vernon, Misi, plus Jordan and Jenkins at LB? That's a damn good front seven w both talent and depth. And none of those guys cost 19 million per season.GARDENHEAD and zwave21 like this. -
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we'll see if he even plays... i'm going to bet he gets suspended again..
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Keep an eye out for them trying him at TE at some point - right before they finally give up on him.
Lol.
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Philbin not get the message?
On Tuesday, Philbin told reporters Jordan will be staying at defensive end.
"We're going to utilize him as [a defensive end]," Philbin said, via the Miami Herald. "Improve and develop his pass rush ability."
http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/update/25120849/dolphins-joe-philbin-dion-jordan-to-focus-on-being-a-de -
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4th in the depth chart as a DE .Might as well trying him out at LB and hope we dont have a tweener in our hands.
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I honestly think the better question is not just about Jordan but all defensive ends and linebackers. Who is better at rushing the passer, who is better at dropping into coverage. Too many times last year, the scheme called for one of our defensive ends to drop into coverage and they then proceeded to get burned. Kansas City game is an example. Shelby/Vernon/Wake dropping into coverage. And Dion Jordan not dropping into coverage enough. So I think it's more complex than just saying we should have Dion Jordan playing linebacker. But that doesn't make for a nice headline.
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Yeh....I was listening to either "Finsiders" or "Joe Rose" cant remember which one..and they were saying how one of the guys was out playing catch with Dion and he has hands of stone. Even they said.."Guess thats why hes not playing TE"
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One-gap he's playing the same techniques, and you can see him two-gap enough to be comfortable with that. I wouldn't put him as a 2-gap Nose Tackle as his every week position, but if there's a nice matchup why not?
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