GOD ****ING DAMN IT.
Ryan Tannehill played a really good game today. He's got work to do still, but god-damn is the upside clearly there. He's got command of the offense beyond someone simply knowing the offense. There's a lot of guys who change teams and should pretty much know an offense, and there's a lot of guys who have been in an offense for more years than Tannehill have been in Sherman's who don't do as much or as well as what he's been doing. He's good under pressure, he's not shy about going down the field, and his interceptions generally aren't egregious mistakes. He's cosmetically looking worse than he actually is in terms of TD:INT ratio. He's gotten bailed out a couple times(Adrian Peterson not coming down with possession), but he's had some pretty rough luck too with a lot of things.
Someone needs to pull Reggie Bush aside and tell him he doesn't need to win the game single-handedly. He hurt the team today by trying to do too much and taking dumb losses. He wants to be the man, he wants to prove he can lead the league, but part of that is knowing when to take what is given.
Jorvorskie Lane had a pretty damn good game with a huge asterisk on it. Him blowing the block on Washington when the offense looked like it was going to seal the game is pretty horrifying. But he might be the best all-around complete fullback in the league right now, and he's pretty nasty on special teams right now.
It's only a quarter of the way through the season, but it's worth mentioning Brian Hartline is on pace for 1812 receiving yards and Davone Bess is on pace for 1188. If you still think that they are #3 and #4 wide receivers, you've seriously got to re-evaluate your life and your exposure to environmental toxins. They're legit starters.
It's pretty much impossible not to cut Legedu Naanee at this point. I understand the facination with him as a personnel guy up to a certain point but we pasted it like a week or two ago. Sign Jabar Gaffney please.
I'd really like to see Anthony Fasano used further down the field than he is. He's getting involved almost entirely on shorter stuff, when he's proven last year he can challenge up field, and he's been "on" this season.
The blocking scheme had a pretty solid game all things considered. Points off for the offense not having Darnell Dockett, but they got tested and I think they won. Reggie Bush is responsible for a lot of the run game issues this week- There was holes he didn't see on a lot of these plays, and a couple where he tried to just be the man on plays he should have took what was given to him.
I understand the need for Jake Long to cut-block in pass protection sometimes on quick passes with a QB who has a tendency to have batted passes, but he ain't very good at it. That's not to suggest he's not playing up to his standards. People going off of one or two negative plays the announcers are pointing out are not getting an accurate assessment.
Kevin Coyle's defensive line substitutions have started going from an oddity to problematic. I've been very happy with him other than this. There's too many times where he's subbing out more than one, or all of Wake/Starks/Odrick at once for Shelby/Soliai/Vernon/Randall. Most coaches seem to go by on a case-by-case basis, a lot of our pressure issues have been running with what is essentially a second team DL.
Kevin Burnett and Karlos Dansby are playing well, but they're asking a whole lot from them in coverage and they're going to get burned sometimes if you're having them drop that deep from showing blitz in the A-gaps that frequently. It's been a big part of the game-plan, but I'm not sure how tenable it is when we start facing quality tight ends.
Koa Misi is pretty good ya'll.
People like to **** on the defensive backfield, but it's a give-and-take situation. They gave up big plays, and they're playing aggressively, and it's absolutely give-and-take. Sean Smith gave up big plays, and arguably lost the game on that 4th down touchdown, but he also had two interceptions and 4 passes defended. Last week Richard Marshall gave up 80 yards to Santonio Holmes, but he also had an interception and three passes defended. The defensive backs are living and dying on being aggressive.
I'm not sure how to feel about Dan Carpenter. He missed another kick, but that seems secondary all things considered.
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Basically, Thill's game is a classic example of why stats are overrated.
I thought the team played well enough, then I thought a lack of depth caught us in the end, especially on the Cardinals last drive in regulation, DL was gassed, perhaps should have used a TO to allow them to catch a breather. If one thinks about it we saved a TO, did not return the kick off, then took a knee in the endzone.
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He also had a huge run on their long TD drive when they were backed up, that had Naanee been able to stay on his block, or even get in the guys way, Bush may have scored on. He made some mistakes when trying to do too much, but let's not go overboard.
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I saw that too but at this point I don't even expect Naanee to block properly.dolfan32323 likes this.
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That reminds me. I think Thigpen is pretty bad right now. He may have been told to not run that kick out, but if not, that was pretty stupid. He has had a couple of nice returns this year (obviously including the TD), but he has been pretty bad more often than not. He's taken off out of the endzone when he doesn't have a lane, and more importantly was unable to move up and field multiple punts today. That has to be the reason they put Bess in there later on.GMJohnson, dolfan32323 and Disgustipate like this.
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I don't know man... When I watched the game it didn't seem like he was trying to do too much, it seemed like he was trying to avoid "hard contact" he didn't want to take any big hits. I haven't seen him play like that previously so I have to think the injury was on his mind.
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Agreed. But I wouldn't hang the fact that they were only able to score 21 points despite their numbers on him.
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I know you have the swagger of a heavy weight but to limit the success of a rookie QB in his 4th NFL game is just a head scratcher.
At one point in the game you were more interested in Wake's sack count than you were about winning the football game. Plus you blame Carp missing a FG. Didn't he make a big stop on a kickoff that could have won the game for the Cards.
If anyone cared more about the stat sheet today it would have been you man. Except where it applies to the young QB.
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Maybe some of it was the injury, but he made some pretty bad decisions at times. He missed some clear cutback lanes in order to continue pressing the front-side, and then compounded issues by trying to take bad angles trying to outrun the defense to the corner or just completely reverse field.
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I think i might get slammed for this, but IMO Heartline and Bess are still 3rd type WRs. Two very good 3rd types, but neither has the qualities to be a 1 or a 2.
Both offer little in the redzone, and both are less than ideal deep threats.
Also, IMO again, they are both getting a very huge boost to their stats by the fact that this offense, and Tannehill play incredibly to their strengths. And also, getting a huge boost by the fact that they are the only 2 competent receivers in this team.
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This ranks up as one of the most painful and saddening losses in Dolphins history for me. Yes I'm including the Pats game in 2002. It almost feels like a Marino shoot out loss. At the end of the day we have the QB we've been waiting for since Marino . All the great ones go through pain. This one just hurts so bad. Pitiful how our D has folded when we needed them for decades now. And it hurts to see Tanny leave his heart out on the field and lose.... O line got him blasted on the two big plays that gave the Cards a chance, our D did the rest. I'm going to bed I'm fully spent
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to be fair I dont think I have seen Bess even targeted in the red zone - tanny is to busy forcing the ball to hartline down there
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That is one of those things we cannot know, I asked the Finsiders host if he had asked Philbin why he alternated Thigpen and Bess on punts, he said he hadn't but thought it a good question.
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I agree about Thigpen. There were several punts he should have fielded today and didn't... very questionable decision making.
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Thigpen did not return any punts did he?
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I thought he did. Let me check... I definitely remember several times where our PR let the ball bounce or didn't fair catch in very questionable situations.Bpk likes this.
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I wouldnt say both - Hartline for sure he has been targeted 48 times already that is by far the most he has ever been targeted - bess on the other hand has 32 targets so far this season which is about normal for him.
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Volume stats are meaningless. The information you're citing is not in any way authoritative about the quality of a receiver.
Hartline and Bess can rack up 400 yards between them per game if they want. That doesn't mean they're the answer., Boik14, GMJohnson and 1 other person like this. -
Thiggy & Bess both returned punts today.
I *think* these were the punts Thigpen could have fielded.
2nd q: 4th and 14 at ARI 27 D.Zastudil punts 68 yards to MIA 5, Center-M.Leach, downed by ARZ-M.Adams.
3rd q: 4th and 3 at ARI 10 D.Zastudil punts 56 yards to MIA 34, Center-M.Leach, downed by ARZ-J.Bethel.
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Do not underestimate the missed Carpenter FG
No wind, no excuses and he hooks it. If he hits it we are up 16-0 and the Cards start at the 20. He shanks it again, changed field position and the momentum of the game shifted as the scored on that possession and finally had some life in themOzzy, bigbry and Mcduffie81 like this. -
If one of them was named Brandon Marshall you might not have the same tone.unluckyluciano, xphinfanx, KB21 and 1 other person like this.
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What exactly is the question at that point, then?
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It should be. The Dolphins are doing well in the red zone, and while Bess will probably not ever be that great of a redzone guy Hartline has pretty much everything you want.
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2x that Thigpen let the ball hit and roll that probably cost us a total of 25 yards at least, combined.sports24/7, Mcduffie81 and ToddPhin like this.
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At a certain point I don't really know what Brian Hartline needs to do to be recognized as a deep threat other than black-face and have someone forge combine results saying he ran a .05 of a second faster than he did one day four years ago.unluckyluciano, Fineas, arsenal and 3 others like this.
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I disagree there. IMO neither will ever be a good redzone threat. Most of Heartlines yards are coming from comeback or sideline routes/throws. Those are good for moving the chains, but are not gonna cut it in the redzone, or against a pro-bowl caliber cover corner. Neither is the Alpha WR the team needs.
IMO, and ive said this a few times today, so forgive me if people are tired of me saying it, they are both 3rd type WRs, very very good ones mind you, but 3rd WR material nonetheless.ssmiami likes this. -
Was doing coursework and did not really pay that much attention tbh.
As for me, I tend to be a bit more optimistic now then I was heading into this one.
We can now generate explosive plays on offense, it is only a matter of time until we start scoring 4 and 5 td's per game, not bad even for "2nd and 3rd type Wr's".
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IMO what you said is meaningless. Might as well say they are both blue tardis.
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:lol: are you serious, we really use plays that play to the strength of our own players ?CWBIII likes this.
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Went for over 250 yds today, at some people one would think people would recognize Bline is really good Wr.
So is Bess, now we must find a 3rd receiving option.
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