I said all week that Luck is phenomonal in the pocket, I said his ability to manipulate the pocket is special, and if we can "contain"him, we would win, well, we could not contain this man,He beat the sh&$ out if us with his skillset, and we lost..plain and simple, he's that good, and if we wanna win the afc one year, were gonna have to out score him...

3 points in the 2nd half by our offense was ridiculous..

We need a traditional down hill runner, which Reggie and Ronnie have not been...Barner from Oregon. seems about right.

 

Thought I was the only person losing his mind over the blatant holds not being called. But they called the hold that didn't exist on Thigpens return in the 4th..

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I don't think Kenjon Barner is what it'd describe as a downhill runner in terms of the NFL. More like an Eddie Lacy or Le'Veon Bell.

 

To me the Offense did what is has been doing all year, mildly productive, nothing spectacular.

D was really disappointing, that was possibly the worst game from our defensive secondary I've seen since the Marino era or 07, SS24 will have nightmares about it.

I thought the phantom hold on the Thigpen return was atrocious.

 

Unfortunately Long was also beaten by guys other than Freeney.

I said it weeks ago and I maintain it. Whether he's hurt or simply isn't what he used to be, Long is not playing like an elite left tackle anymore. It's been two years now.

Jeff Ireland may pay him what he's seeking, but he's not worth it right now IMO. Frankly I will be disappointed if we do.

The defense was just flabbergasting today. After facing some lackluster QBs, they got exposed to a degree. But this was on another level. Really tough to watch that performance today.

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Yeah that was terrible. There was no way we should have had less than 10 points 2nd half. The defense was shown up by a great QB (albeit a rook) but I thought there was no way they were going to stop us from scoring either and we would hit 27 points.

 

I've come to the conclusion that I really don't know what holding is. Because I *think* I see it a lot on Wake yet it rarely gets called.

I wanted the side judge's mic to be on when Rizzi was arguing that bull**** call.

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The problem I have with today's game is that when you're trying to get over the hump and win as a favored team on the road in the NFL, which isn't easy to do, you need stud performances from your leaders to set the tone for the team and lead the other players by example.

In the midst of that we got very subpar performances from both Jake Long and Sean Smith, who are guys you need to have step up in that situation. Two of the players who could've (and should've) helped this team get over this hump it's sitting on didn't show up.

 

Sean Smith sucks. There, I said it.

Aside from that, we failed to put enough pressure on Luck. He's everything he was advertised. But, when you give any QB that kind of protection they're going to find the open man and make plays.

 

Long and Smith probably had their worst games of their careers. We expected more than that.

If the refs don't call holding on the Colts OL, Luck has all day to throw making the secondary look like the crap they displayed.

I'm with everyone on this. It was a disappointing loss.

 

Overall a "bad" game all around...our secondary...our pass rush...the referees......but I would be remiss if I did not mention the God-awful job CBS Sid with the telecast! They missed by my count 4 snaps! 4! funny me but I thought their job was to televise the game...made a frustrating day that much worse!

 

I think he plays soft. He definitely doesn't play like a 6'3" corner.

 

I just want a traditional one Ro...just a fu&$ing traditional skillset at the running back position..

 

IMHO, he's the least physical corner we have, generally has the worst coverage skills, and is a below average tackler. JMHO.

That said, I think we can agree he was well...bad, today. No?

 

He was playing the most dominating wide receiver in the NFL this season, maybe that had something to do with it.

 

Despite Luck having a monster game and some horrible calls by the refs, the Dolphins only lost by 3 points and had a chance in the end. Dropped passes and missed field goals might have made it a worse loss for us but somehow we were still in it. The defense still kept them out of the end zone more often than not. I understand that if the calls went our way and the defense had gotten a couple of those close INTs then the game might have been a lot better.

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I assume you mean Wayne. Man, I love me some Reggie Wayne. Why we didn't sign him this off season I'll never understand.

But, to your point...was Smith shadowing Wayne today?

 

Well, sounds like we're in agreement more than we're not. At least as far as today goes.

As for what he brings to the table in terms of an overall skill set, I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. :wink2:

But hey, that's cool. It's all good bro. :knucks:

 

Today was concerning to me for one reason. And some posters brought this up this week.

This was our first real test against a quality QB/quality passing offense since week 1, and we failed miserably. And no, I'm not calling Andy Dalton and the Bengals a quality passing offense yet.

I can't remember giving up so many 3rd and longs so easily maybe ever.

The pass rush was good, I thought, especially since we were rushing 4 almost exclusively. Dropping 7 in coverage and just getting burnt play after play was demoralizing. The defensive backfield let this team down today, and I'm worried that we have no shot at catching the Patriots until we figure it out.

Edit: And the amount of holding calls Indy got away with today was ridiculous. And to come back and call Jake Long for Holding and on the punt return, in addition to a phantom false start was simply "fishy"

 

As badly as they need yet another good boundary CB, they also need a better nickel CB. Marshall may suffice if they keep him in one of those roles (nickel CB), but a true #1 is necessary in Miami. It's the same for the offense at WR.

 

I totally agree with all of this.

I think the Colts played well and deserved the win but the refs regarding those calls you mentioned, didn't give the Dolphins a chance. Not even a fighting chance. It's like they decided the game for us and controlled the tempo and momentum at critical points.

 

The problem with SMith is that ppl are trying to make him out to be a shutdown CB which he is clearly not. He is a very good #2 CB but he is not and never will be a shutdown CB

 

How about we give just a liiitle bit of credit to Indy. I understand the frustrations, but take away some of the bashing from our own and give credit to the opponent.

Did anyone see the post-game speech by Pagano? The Colts were inspired today and their future star QB had his day.

 

OK my take

1st I apologize for anyone reading my posts in game thread, while I mean alot of what I say, it is emotionally charged. Wife calls me nuts, maybe she is right. I get wrapped up in this team, I have lived and died with them since the undefeated season. I am 46 now and remember that year not specifics in that I can tell you what happened tho can say I remember griese getting hurt and watching Earl Morral play. Point is, it comes down to belief. In the old days when we wer good, you knew they wwould get off the field on 3rd and 10+ you knew they would make a play.

Today, I saw a defense chasing its tail being dictated to. Coverage was awful, rush was there but too often we couldnt stay on receivers. 3rd and 2 and we have 10 yard cushions? I guarenteed convertions when I saw that. it isnt that I dont want to credit Luck nor state the officials were bad, but it was the hand that was dealt, winners deal and overcome. We fell today. It doesnt mean we are done and wont compete. I am hopeful of the future after today I actually think Philbin will turn this into a lesson they will learn and grow from. It still is horrible play on defense.

Tannehill and teh offense is growing but needs help, Luck is great but Wayne is a vet that can be a crutch, we are getting there but arent yet.

But in the end, we are better than I would have thought and 8-8 is reasonable and attainable and would be a good starting point.

 

I'm probably in the minority on this, and who knows if he'll be kept, but I think Jonas Gray fits that bill. I think Lamar Miller does as well. I'm not sure why he doesn't get more carries. I get that his pass-blocking is a liability, but so is Reggie Bush's. I'd still bet that the Lamar Miller will be a proverbial feather in Jeff Ireland's cap.

 

The only thing this game did for me was cement my hate for the Colt's organization and Andrew Luck. I hope they meet Peyton in the AFC championship and he sends there *** back t0 Indy.

 

I agree with this. He's certainly having a good year, and had a down game today, but I just can't see any way that Miami wouldn't bring him back.

But, I think it's clear that Miami needs to upgrade over Nolan Carroll and Jimmy Wilson. They're fine special teams players for sure, and maybe you can count on them for a spot start or back-up duty replacing someone who is injured; but in my opinion, they shouldn't be playing as many snaps as they are on defense. That's one area Miami needs to address this offseason.

 

Carrol is playing well. Not sure why you're saying that.

 

I don't think he matched-up well with Donnie Avery today. Just my opinion, but I'd rather he not be a starting CB.

I'd personally rather have Smith as the #2 guy or boundary corner, and try and find a true, #1 field corner.

 

Man, just thinking how were gonna have to build this team to Contain and beat Luck..

We got some pressure on him, but obviously he's too good for above average pressure, we need athletes that can do special things when chasing this player..

Might change the complexity of the early rounds of the draft.

 

By having worthwhile cornerbacks. Luck had easy throw after throw. Tannehill's throws were very different. There was a tight window for only moderate gains available.

 

the biggest differance was Luck had 4 or 5 seconds to throw tanny had 2 or 3 - thats a huge differance

 

The reason for that difference is that Luck was masterful at working the pocket while Tanny was pretty poor.

 

Andrew Luck as a rooke NFL QB is in a league by himself. Never can I remember a rookie QB looking this experienced and this good playing the position. Compare him to all the best QBs in the league in their rookie years and he's on a level of his own.

Not saying you did this, but comparing Ryan Tannehill to Andrew Luck is unfair. Compare Ryan Tannehill to anyone else in their respective rookie seasons, and we'll all see that he's ahead of the curve. We should all be happy about that at least.