I really like everything about AVG but don’t think we can afford to pay him with the money we have tied up at the position. Hunt has been one of the few picks that panned out for Grier but also wonder if we can afford to pay him top G salary?

I think we need to look at cutting Baker, Ogbah, Howard and Wilson. Then maybe they can restructure some bigger contracts.

 

Holy ****, I didn't even realize it was this bad. And it looks like Grier is not resigning Wilkins who should be top priority. Next year is going to be a **** show, the plan was to win this year, now we are screwed.

 

Why he needs to cut his hair? :laughy:

 

I posted what we could potentially save from a few cuts and restructuring a few people in a reply to you awhile back. You must not have seen it.

In short, with the projected cap increase next year, and those things happening, the Dolphins can be anywhere from $50 to $80 mil under the cap next year.

 

Be nice if Armstead retired, could use that money better.

 

We need to find someone more reliable. But it’s scary to think Jackson will be our only returning starter if we don’t resign Williams or Hunt.

 

Bye, Wilkins. Sieler is better and will emerge as a better leader.

 

If Armstead retires the Dolphins would be f^cked cap wise.

 

Why? I thought when a player retires the salary doesn't count against the cap.

 

Nope. If he retires his cap hit would be nearly $25m this coming year.

 

Doesn't that depend on when he retires?

 

Releasing Ogbah and Baker would free up nearly $24m in cap. With the projected cap increase of $16m that would pretty much put them at $0 cap space instead of that $40m over.
Cut X post June 1st will save over $14m. Restructure Ramsey, Tyreek, and Chubb and they’d save $50m.

There are other things they could do to save even more.

 

If he retires before March 6th I think they’d save $3m.

If he plays, the Dolphins need to restructure him. He’s owed $20m this next season if he plays. If he retires, we’d owe him more. If he’s released, we’d owe him more.

 

2023 might have been the best this roster looks. Don't see how they field a better team needing this much and not having the cap space, and being so terrible at draft picks/trading them for costly veterans. Can't keep pushing out your problems with restructures. Chickens have come home to roost.

 

With all the rules surrounding the salary cap, the fact that a team is held accountable for a player’s salary if they retire is probably the dumbest. As long as the player is not forced to retire due to injury, the remaining money owed should not count against the team’s future cap.

Just my .02

 

It’s all about the wording. Guaranteed vs not guaranteed. The players get screwed all the time when a team just decides to release them and their non guaranteed money isn’t paid out.
I do agree, however, there should be a rule that when a player retires, even if guaranteed, it should not count against the cap.
The conundrum with Armstead is if he retires not only do we have to pay him, but that money can’t be used to pay someone else. Him playing is the best bet as long as he can stay healthy. Which isn’t going to happen.

 

They do (or will) have the cap space. There’s always inherent risks with players retiring or falling off the cliff in terms of play which will then hamper the ability to restructure and lessen the current season’s cap amount.

As a rule, I don’t really worry about the cap because there seems to always be a way around it. Many teams over the years have been in “dire straights” cap wise only to come out OK in the end.

 

I'm sure it will all be fine.

 

The Bills cap is in worse shape than the Dolphins. The media, which it seems you’re parroting, isn’t worried about them.

 

Buffalo is only 680k more over the cap than we are, and at least they have something to show for it as they have been winning playoff games and condending for the superbowl three years in a row.

They started their rebuild around at the same time we did and rebuilt their team way faster and better than we have.

 

Allen was drafted in 2018. They had a two year head start.

 

What are you even talking about?

Their HC, most core players, and QB have been there going on seven seasons and they’ve underachieved in the playoffs considering they’ve been Super Bowl favorites for years, barely won the division this year (if not for Dolphins’ injuries they most likely don’t), and just fired their OC this season. The Dolphins have had Tua for 4 seasons (mainly under a defensive coach that hated him), but their HC and most of their other core players have been here for 2-4 years.

 

The tunsil Trade was in 2019 when we started the rebuild, one year difference between when they started and we started. Even so they were in the AFC championship game by year 4 of their rebuild and continued to win playoff games in years 5 and 6. On the other hand we are going on year 6 of our rebuild and still have not even won a playoff game.

 

So now the Bills are so good they’ve crossed conferences and got into the NFCCG?

Are you drunk or just doing your typical trolling?

 

The fact we had to start over with another coach does not negate that we started the rebuild in 2019. We are going on year 6 of the rebuild and have nothing to show for it.

Bills at least have been contending for the superbowl 3 years in a row.

 

Insignificant typo, of course I meant AFC. Point still stands.

 

Yes, we know the Bills are super bowl favorites every year. One day they might make it.

 

If getting to the playoffs is contending then the Dolphins have the last two years.
In the Bills first three seasons of their rebuild they went 1 and done in the post season twice and missed the playoffs once.

 

Do you get your marching orders from Grier? No, Sieler is not as good or better than Wilkins. Wilkins was the MVP of the defense, consistent production and improvement for 5 years straight, durable and never missed a game, and most importantly he played great when it mattered most in the big games. It's not his fault Tua **** the bed in those games. He's also a great locker room guy and gives great energy, not sure what your gripe is about not being a leader.

Yet we want to sign Tua long term but not Wilkins. Only in Grier's head does that make sense.

 

That's acceptable in the first three years of a rebuild, but they made the AFC championship in year 4 and won a playoff game years 5 and 6 and are currently vying for another trip to the conference championship in year 6.

We on the other hand are in year 5 of of the rebuild and have not even won a playoff game let alone contend for a superbowl.

 

not getting into the rigamarole again BUT i do want to say Thank Christ Jake Bailey will be gone, holy **** he sucks and take Crossman with you

 

Wilkins 65 tackles, 9 sacks, 1 FF

Sieler 63 tackles, 10 sacks, 1 FF, 1 INT, 1 TD

Sieler is much cheaper than Wilkins will be and just as effective. And, not a clown with his stupid late hits like Wilkins.

 

Before you start using the Bills as some kind of template, let's note that they have yet to win a SB in the entire existence of their franchise. Until they win a SB there's no reason to look to the Bills as a template. From that perspective the Bills haven't done anything either. Also, they haven't even been to the SB in 30 years.

 

Seiler is also very good, but it was usually Wilkins drawing double teams, not Zach. Wilkin's PFF grades have also been better, he doesn't miss games and plays almost every snap, and he makes plays in key moments of big games when needed.

If anyone deserves to be signed long term it's him.

 

I'm not using them as a template, but they executed their rebuild a lot better than we did. I'm not talking about their entire team history, I'm talking about the last six years.

 

Sorry but until Buffalo wins a SB they haven't done squat either. If I were a Buffalo fan I'd be very disappointed with the repeated early exits in the playoffs in recent years. It's like they can't get over the hump.