Enough is enough of this.

 

For real, this is just trolling.

 

Amazing, anyone who has a differing view and opinion from that of Grier and the homers is labeled a troll.

I know it gets on your nerves when other posters are not blind homers like you, but that does not make them a troll.

 

Homers have no interest in reality or differing views, they just want to stick their head in the sand and act like everything is fine and Grier is a genius.

 

I didn't watch much/any of Howell last season, but I did catch a fair few games that Fields played.

Fields is a poor man's version of Lanar Jackson. Not as good as a runner, worse arm and no ability to read a defense.

Now if we wanted to sign him to be our back up RB, I could be in board with that . There is no universe where he is even close to a starting NFL QB.

 

I'm not convinced that Howell is any better than Skylar Thompson. Fields maybe. He's not a very good passer but he could win some games with his legs.

 

You clearly don't watch any football at all.

In saying that, I wouldn't have minded the Dolphins going after Howell as a backup for Tua.

Fields would be a complete and utter disaster in this offence and most NFL offences that ask the QB to pass from the pocket.

 

Fields wanted to play with the Steelers.

 

Well the story is being told to make Fields and the Bears look as good as possible because they both look horrible so you have take that with a grain of a salt but even still Fields/his team would want Steelers over some other teams because he would feel there was a better chance to play. So you can't assume they wouldn't have been ok with Miami since Tua has an injury history.

 

Its true that wanting Fields isn't trolling but wanting Zach Wilson to start for the Dolphins sure is

 

Updated list of quarterbacks Aquapride wants to replace Tua with:

Davis Mills
Jameis Winston
Tyrod Taylor
Kenny Pickett
Cooper Rush
Zach Wilson
Sam Howell
Justin Fields

This is after trading Tua for multiple premium draft picks.

 

I don’t mind criticism of players, if it objective and fact based. Are there aspects of Tua’s game that warrants criticism? Only a blind pundit would say no. Every player in the league, regardless of position has aspects of their game that warrants criticism, Tua being no different. With that being said…

If anyone truly believes Sam Howell or Justin Fields or Tyrod Taylor or any of these aforementioned quarterbacks would as equal to the performance of Tua over the last two years, I just don’t know what can be said.

If, and that’s an IF in ginormous capital letters, Tua was Daniel Jones, an extremely mediocre quarterback with an astronomical contract I could see the argument, but the difference between those 2 are night and day.

There are quite a few losses we had last season that we all know are attributed to a dumb play called by McDaniel and not because of Tua, right? Does a 4th and 2 in the red zone with a bubble screen thrown to Hill for a stop and fumble returned for a touchdown ring a bell?

Point being, it ain’t all Tua.

 

OP is looking far and wide for something to complain about. This is just sad at this point.

 

Almost as many names on that list as "Aquapride" has.

 

I Lol'd at Cooper Rush especially. In fact, all of the names on here are laughable minus Howell who I actually think will be a good quarterback in this league. Even so, I might have traded for Howell to be Tua's backup.

 

If you were to read what you just wrote from the perspective of any reasonably mature adult - Tua stan or Tua detractor alike - you would realize how crazy you sound. I am not being hyperbolic.

Seek help.

 

What's your end game with this just terrible suggestion?

Go 4-13, waste a year of everyone's time, and hope you draft the next generational quarterback, who is immediately NFL ready, and win 13-14 games right out of the gate? Reality check. That doesn't happen as quite as easy as it does in your Madden video game.

Or, do you actually think this offense is just plug and play at the quarterback position, and let's just say Cooper Rush is going to throw for close to 5,000 yards and win 12 games and take them to an AFC Championship game?

 

Hey now...Coop would have won the SB even with all the injuries to the offense and defense last season.

 

I'm still not sure if he is trolling or actually believes what he is writing. At this point, I hope for his sake that he is trolling.

 

Lmao! Please stop talking about the cap. You literally have no clue as to how it works.

 

You thinking that those QB’s you listed will have caps that high proves you don’t. So just stop.

 

Becoming more convinced that Tua just throws to who he is told to throw it to. Most QB's could do that. Hard Knocks shows Coach saying I'm going to call play for Waddle, and Tua throws to Waddle. I want Tua to be the man, but I need to see it.

You have a point about bad play calling for sure and one cannot argue that.

 

If it wasn’t about the cap why do you care? Are you inheriting Ross’ money? Lol

You were talking about the cap. Don’t move the goalposts because you’re wrong.

 

It seems you’re also convinced that 2+2=6.

 

Consider: Four years ago, Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields, and Mac Jones were all drafted in the first 15 picks and only Lawrence looks like a pro right now. Three of the other four have been traded and Wilson is considered to be an untradeable team cancer.

The next year, Kenny Pickett and Desmond Ridder were the first two QBs off the board and both showed so little as starters, their teams traded them. Last season, Carolina sold the farm to trade up for Bryce Young, who has more questions than answers. C.J. Stroud - who was the question mark - is a top-10 QB after one season.

Let's not forget that it was 2022's Mr. Irrelevent who took his team to the Super Bowl last season and nearly won league MVP last season. Drafting The Guy is a crap shoot in the best of years (see the aforementioned 2021 draft).

Anybody who posits that replacing a QB is as easy as signing another or drafting one is either naive or ignorant to the reality of how things work. To draft a QB who is likely to play well, we'd have to be a bottom 3 team. We did that and fans like OP are unhappy with the one we got. I've got more than a sneaking suspicion they would be whining just as loud about the next one, too.

 

That’s what trolls do.

 

Exactly. But I'm unsure if OP is a troll or just honestly obtuse with this thread.

 

Not many QB’s in this league can make these throws.

 

Timing is elite. But he needs protection to use it. If 2 of our first 3 picks are OL, I'm not complaining at all.

 

This has got to be the most utterly ludicrous, devoid-of-reality statement I've read here in many years.

 

I agree. Howell would have made a better #2 than mikewhite, and had we traded for him for that role I could have seen it.