Dolphins vs. The Field

Ah well. Everyone lost in the second half.

If Houston can just lose 5 more games... ill be happy.. 8-8 record could put that pick between 14-19

Have to add the Falcons to “the field”, as they are in a nosedive, plus Ryan got hurt today.

Well theyre definitely not drafting a qb.. they would trade down if theyre in position to draft first overall

This week:

Redskins: 1-6 @ Vikings (TNF)
Bengals: 0-7 @ Rams
Jets: 1-5 @ Jaguars
Falcons: 1-6 Host Seahawks

Dolphins: 0-6 @ Steelers

Predictions for records after this week?

Redskins 1-7
Bengals 0-8
Jets 2-5
Falcons 1-7
Dolphins 0-7

The Steelers, somewhat like the Ravens but less so, always seem to play us hard. Playing in Pittsburgh, even though the Steelers are 2-4, I'm not sure we've improved enough to earn the win.

"Galant wrote:

This week:

Redskins: 1-6 @ Vikings (TNF)
Bengals: 0-7 @ Rams
Jets: 1-5 @ Jaguars
Falcons: 1-5 Host Seahawks

Dolphins: 1-6 @ Steelers

Predictions for records after this week?

Redskins 1-7
Bengals 0-8
Jets 2-5
Falcons 1-6
Dolphins 1-7

The Steelers, somewhat like the Ravens but less so, always seem to play us hard. Playing in Pittsburgh, even though the Steelers are 2-4, I'm not sure we've improved enough to earn the win.

Oh c'mon Galant. As a Dolphins fan how can you possibly get our record wrong during this "tank" season?? We're 0-6 not 1-6 lol.

Also.. Falcons are already 1-6. As far as predictions, note that Vegas favors the Jags over Jets with a -275 moneyline.

"cbrad wrote:

Oh c'mon Galant. As a Dolphins fan how can you possibly get our record wrong during this "tank" season?? We're 0-6 not 1-6 lol.

Also.. Falcons are already 1-6. As far as predictions, note that Vegas favors the Jags over Jets with a -275 moneyline.

Falcons - corrected! Thanks. Can't read apparently...

And Dolphins... well.. I'll blame it on my cold right now. I certainly knew we're without a win, but I've no idea why I typed differently.

Jags vs Jets... I haven't looked at Vegas odds. Just went with my gut feeling on it. Or maybe it's wishful thinking!

No one else have any predictions?

I don't see any of the suck ass teams winning. I think Pitt wins somewhat handily.

The Jests will be the interesting game, to see if they can settle Darnold down a little after seeing ghosts. Gase is such a tool lol.

The cellar dwellers will get swept this week. Miami might have the best chance to win out of the bunch.

Well the Jags mauled the Jests.

Will Miami win in Pittsburgh? The records show that Fitz has never managed a win against the Steelers. Will this be the year he pulls it off?

Alright, we're half-way through the season and the records are:

Bengals 0-8 - If you feel bad, think of the Bengals. They were even planning to tank.
Dolphins - 0-7
Jets - 1-6 (Can't these guys win when required? They got their desired QB, come on guys... do better!)
Redskins - 1-7 - If thinking of the Bengals didn't help, try the Redskins... poor fellas.
Falcons - 1-7 - I really hope we don't end up like the Falcons. What a roller coaster ride.
Broncos - 2-6 - Who knew there would be so much competition in being bad...
Browns - 2-5 (A lesson in tanking gone wrong...or is it just Cleveland being Cleveland?)

It's not a lot of fun losing.

So here's some (not quite) encouragement from the 80's classic movie, The Abyss...

Week 9...

Dolphins host the Jests
Buffalo host the Redskins
Broncos host the Browns
Bengals - BYE
Falcons - BYE

Predictions?

Bengals obviously 0-8
Dolphins 0-8 I think last night showed just how bad we are. We aren't beating anyone but maybe the Bengals this year.
Redskins 1-8 - Poor chaps are horrible. Just not as bad as us...
Falcons obviously 1-7
Jets 2-6
Broncos 2-7 I'm giving this one to the Browns but I'm maybe 10% certain. Just feels like the Browns are due a few more wins on talent alone.
Browns 3-5.

Bengals just announced they will be benching Andy Dalton for the rest of the season and rolling with Ryan Finley.. theyre done trying to win

Mind you Andy has put up one terrible game in the last 4 games. The other 3 were average to above average.. theyre on that tank now.

"Vertical Limit wrote:

Mind you Andy has put up one terrible game in the last 4 games. The other 3 were average to above average.. theyre on that tank now.

The Benglas-Dolphins game should be a case study in blatant tanking. Which team dares to just punt on first down? Put backup OL on special teams kick coverage? All out blitz and zero coverage? Oh wait, Miami already used that one.

the jets are aggressively trying to trade Leveon Bell. They too are done trying to win this season

"Vertical Limit wrote:

the jets are aggressively trying to trade Leveon Bell. They too are done trying to win this season

They also tried dealing Jamal Adams and how he's being a grump about it too. Nice job Jests!

ESPN had a piece calling us trade winners for all our moves and actually going all in rather than sputtering like the Jests and Falcons and Bengals (none of whom really moved the needle on asset collection, Leonard Williams aside).

I don't think the Bengals are openly tanking, but they need to see if Finley has any potential or not because they will end up with a top 3 pick regardless.

This could be a huge QB class when it's all said and done depending on who all declares and where people are given projections. Tua, Burrows, Herbert, Love, Eason, Hurts are all names that are popping up as high rounders so far. The juniors also have to understand that next year is essentially already taken as well. It's doubtful anyone will pass Lawrence and Fields as a prospect in 2021.

If there was any doubt about them going for a QB in the 1st round there is little now.

Another team that took way longer than they should have to replace their QB. QB's are like coaches in that the good ones tend to show it early, by year 3-4 or so, with some exceptions of course. One shouldn't keep hoping the guy will get better like we did with Tannehill or like the Bengals did with Dalton. Try him out 3-4 years and if it doesn't work out draft a new one.

Bengals really blew it too because for most of the first 5-6 years or so of Dalton's career he had a pretty good surrounding cast and a top 10 defense, and he was a key reason they couldn't win a playoff game for 4 years in a row. Terrible QB in the "clutch" so to say.

Anyway, one thing that might help us vs. Cinci in this tankathon is that AJ Green is intent on coming back and wants a long term contract so it's not easy for their FO to just try and trade the guy – who wouldn't want AJ Green as a key component of a future team? WR's aren't as influential as QB's but this can only help us vs. Cinci.

The list of QBs who turn things around after year 4 is short. The list who turn ed it around on the same team is even shorter. Then turning it around on the same team with the same coaching staff puts you into unicorn territory.

Cool. Let's win this one and lose the rest. Just don't want that doughnut. Maybe if we allow them the first pick they'll do us a solid and take Tua so we don't have to endure that mess.

"Pauly wrote:

The list of QBs who turn things around after year 4 is short. The list who turn ed it around on the same team is even shorter. Then turning it around on the same team with the same coaching staff puts you into unicorn territory.

Best example of a QB that turned things around REALLY late that I can find is Rich Gannon. Guy was with 3 teams for over a decade and was hovering around average until he paired up with Gruden in 1999 and became a well above average QB for 4 consecutive years:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GannRi00.htm

Alex Smith also turned it around from year 6 on the same team but with a different coach: Jim Harbaugh.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitAl03.htm

But these are exceptions for sure. However, it does show that even for QB's one would think are no better than average after large sample size, there is nevertheless still a SMALL probability that proper surrounding cast (i.e., right coach + system) can make the difference.