I think Tannehill cements himself as a superstar this year. Maybe I'm drinking the Kool-Aid, and I'm an admitted Tannehill homer, but I really think he's going to continue his trend of dramatic improvement. Look how much he improved last year without a running game and turnstile offensive line. I think we have a lot of reason to finally be optimistic about a young Miami Dolphins QB.

 

I guess the question is whether Lazor's influence, an established back (Moreno) to vitalize the run game and the OL will keep him from getting killed again will all materialize. If so, he may just punch out and become the guy we all hope he is. But it seems that for every step forward the OL has taken this offsesason, it's taken a step backwards as well....

 

He should be on these lists.

He's a talented quarterback that just inherited the offense that made Nick Foles a breakout star.

 

dwayne allen is number 1 by the way

 

^^ If i recall correctly Miller was in the 30's on the list

 

I certainly hope Tannehill becomes the QB many in the media and on this forum project he will be.

Of course many of those same media individuals who predict Tannehill will take a big step up this year, are also predicting that the Dolphins will finish the season 8-8 or worse. So while many of them see a bright future for Tannehill, they don't seem to feel nearly as confident with the rest of the roster.

 

Tanny needs similar yardage to last year (or more) while improving on his YPA (and hopefully is completion %, which could in turn increase his YPA with no other changes from last year even), and increasing his TDs to ~30 and keeping his INTs < 15.

Actually, if he kept his TDs where he was at from last year but got his INts lower (< 10), it might be considered breakout as well (using his same numbers from last year just with 10 INTs puts him statistically nearly exact with Andrew Luck).

 

Wasn't the Mathews pass 30 yards down the field in Atlanta?

 

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!

Man, considering he was the most sacked QB in the NFL last season and did what he did, is truly amazing. If you take that into consideration and figure in this OL hopefully giving him better and ample protection, along with the weapons he has at his disposal, he should be very dangerous this season. I forget, but he's something like Top 5 or Top 10 in passing yards for rookie in his first two season in NFL history....or something like that. Whatever it is, it's pretty dang impressive.

 

That's the thing with YPA...it's just a measure of how everything else went. If his Comp% and yardage go up, INTs go down, his YPA will naturally go up, and its a reflection of the whole passing offense.

 

His yards for his first 2 seasons are #5 ALL TIME, right behind Marino.

 

I tend to agree with what you are saying. While watching the atlanta game I was thinking do we really need wallace? I mean, if there's open deep stuff it will be taken - weve seen that with Hartline, but we dont need a player who seemingly requires us to force the issue.

 

What is the entire top 10?

 

Other players like Matthews and Williams were flashing deep in the games so far too.

 

No idea...the list I saw stopped at 5.

 

where is the list you saw?

 

Here's the top 20.

http://pfref.com/pi/share/X4pmV

 

It was a segment on ESPN, and IIRC I saw it on another forum.

Edit: Can't remember the last one, but in the top 5 were Tannehill, Marino, Luck and P. Manning.

 

geez. That's an omen and a half.

 

Ok..

Madden 15 is fning amazing...

 

To be fair here, preseason defenses are something to sneeze at.

 

I find it impressive that he's in the top 5, even if you only included players from the last 10 years. The sheer number of yards may not be impressive, but he's 3rd behind two of the more heralded young QBs in the league (Luck and Newton). He's also managed to start 32 games out of 32 in his young career which is more than some prospects who came out to greater fanfare and even more than some accomplished NFL passers can say. Since the NFL went to 16 games (1983), only 7 QBs have started every regular season game their team has played. Yes, 6 are from 2008 until now, but all but Tannehill either have already got (Dalton and Flacco) or will undoubtedly get a massive 2nd contract (Luck, Wilson, Newton).

I'm not saying that's a predication of success either, but I do find it impressive nonetheless. It's also all evidence that he has had a lot put on his shoulders (IMO) despite his inexperience in the nfl (and at QB one could argue).

 

Agreed. Dan is #4 overall, but from an era where it was much harder to pass and he didn't even start the season. Plus the fact he started all the games in both seasons helps. I find statistics like this kind of useless. It's like saying, Dan Marino only threw for 2,200 yards his rookie year! Yeah well he didn't start until what, game 8? His second year has the best season ever for a QB. In an era where you'd have to be butt-raping the WR to get a flag.

A more accurate measurement might be the first 32 starts for a player.

 

Matthews is the best reciever on this team and might be the best slot reciever in football and I believe Tannehill is going to ring up the # 1 Stat this 2014 season, and thats WINS. Double digit wins.

This team does that, and the Tri-County will love him. It's put up or shut up time and I think he puts it up.

 

Dan's 2nd year will never be beaten IMO. 5k back then? Jesus...it was insanity to watch. The whole football world was up in flames. Was f***ing AWESOME!

 

Look at it in this light.

That means more players are capable of those numbers, which makes it just as hard to get into the top 20.

 

Here's great news, the offensive coordinator is not going to put the Qb in the same spot in the pocket so that He gets killed by the worst oline in football..

Not only did he not use the entire skillset of the Qb in terms of athletic ability and his strengths in the bootleg game, he didn't use any of it in spite of the worst oline in football....what an a-hole

 

I think you have been drinking the Kool-Aid, but I really hope that I'm wrong. His passing has looked sharp so far though so I can't wait to see how this season unfolds.

 

I don't hate it, but one of the things that made the Philly passing game so great was Foles ability to hit Jackson on big plays (deep passes).

I think we have 2 other players now capable of throwing it down-field to - Matthews & Landry. They both have strong hands and have shown the ability to go up and get the ball.

 

You and I saw different plays. Tannehill executed the fake to the flat, turned to look up-field to his receiving targets and saw McCoy baring down on him, went to try and avoid the sack by stepping up/side-stepping and didn't fully protect the ball fast enough.

http://www.buccaneers.com/multimedi...rip-sack/4b9a7695-0224-41cc-bd32-f20b1bf43382

Aside from scrambling immediately after (and I mean immediately; so he never even turns back towards the LOS let alone resets his feet) after he faked to the flat, I don't know what he could have reasonably done to avoid the sack and even then I'm not sure he escapes a sack (not saying he couldn't have avoided the fumble).

 

He had no time to deal with that McCoy sack. Go back and time it.

People are underestimating just how bad our line was.

 

Agreed here, it's just a matter of what the offense can do to nullify the weakness.

 

I took it at as in general type thing..

 

I agree. I don't see that one on Tannehill (the sack).
However, the fumble was Tannehill's blame. He's had ball security issues and even if he gets murdered there, needs to hold onto the football.

 

Other than the McCoy play, this is really my biggest gripe with him.
I find that his accuracy is a bit overrated also. It's not even the deep passes, that's an issue.
It's passes over the middle of the field, posts, etc. where if he leads his receiver they can get quality YAC. YAC is just as much a function of QB accuracy as it is a WR's talent/athleticism.

 

Sometimes yes. Great recievers YAC numbers certainly cannot be attributed mostly to the QB. I think YAC numbers comes mostly from being a great WR. Are there times when a better throw leads to more YAC, certainly, but SO MUCH YAC comes from a great move, a broken tackle, or just the ability to get wide open.

Tannehill can make the ALL-PRO throws, the crossing route to Landry is a perfect example of his ability. More time in the pocket, will lead to him being more efficient. It can't possibly lead to anything but that, and if you take last years numbers and factor in a reasonable improvement just for that circumstance....Just look out. Step out of the way and let him strut it.

Tannehill gets his first Play-Offs this season.

And I personally....Can't bleeping wait for it.

 

But that's a perfect example of why Tannehill still has a lot to learn. On that particular play, he was DEFINITELY taking the sack, and the right move was to protect the ball and brace for impact. Instead, he tried to reverse direction, bringing the ball away from his body, and it led to an easy turnover that never should have happened. Now, the sack was certainly not his fault and it's hard to blame a guy for a bad split-second decision, but that was a huge issue last season.

If he had time to turn around and take one step, he had time to put both arms around the football. How could this not be drilled into his mind by now? That's what makes me worry about him as a long-term answer. He does a lot of things great, but the mental breakdowns are scary.