He'll be fine in time. We're lucky to have two quality young guns to battle for the job. McCown may even surprise us in this scheme too!

 

I guess the Henne crowd can calm down now.

 

Well, a few things stuck out from the article:

1. Merling is not 100%, I didn't know it was groin injury.

2. Devone Bess was on punt return duty, not Jayson Foster

3. Some of the UDFA/Tryout players may be signed later.

Chad Henne comes back down to earth.

 

That one caught me as well. It seems that Foster may be stashed on the PS for a year or so until he can make at least 180lbs and work on his receiving skills. With being Parcells' handpicked UDFA, I don't think he goes anywhere for at least a year or two if he doesn't end up making the 53-man squad.

I def. think Bess will see the field this year as our slot receiver, 4th at worst. He's been nothing but consistent, aware, and in excellent condition so far by all accounts. I am really pulling for him to do well.

 

Most definitely. It feels good to have 3 guys who could potentially start. I also get the feeling that it will be a real competition this year which is a nice change.

It doesn't shock me that Henne struggled today. It's going to be a lot to learn, plus he'll be adjusting to new teammates and the speed of the NFL game. Beck and McCown will be learning a new offense as well. I actually think McCown has the best shot to show consistency early in practice given his experience.

 

Bess definitely would have the inside track at a spot on the 53 man roster. He's been an outstanding WR for 3 years in Hawaii so he has a ton more experience at the position and played against better competition. He should absolutely be more polished. I like Foster's speed and quickness. He gets the edge there, but you're right-- he's going to need to get bigger. I do think both guys will get an extensive look on returns and the guy who seems like the biggest threat to line up opposite Ginn on KRs has the best shot.

 

I've got to say that Bess reminds me of Mark Duper in physical build, a short stout smurfish type of Wr, I think Bess will be in the mix, but the thing of it is, Derek Hagan is bigger and faster and leaps better, if he drinks from the fountain of motivation and really shows his stuff, he will beat Bess out in TC.

 

He's a bust

 

i think bess will be in the slot for the phins come opening weekend i think he has the tools we need plus the coaches are tallking him up which is a good thing

as for henne he will learn i am happy that the phins are going in with a 3 qb competition

 

This is horrible news. I guess we were all wrong about him. God status removed. What a waste!!!!

 

I really don't see why Henne would be tired or not totally pumped and on top of his game..with these easy practices its all about technique andd form, he should of been like a frekin ninja QB out there.

i have no pity for someone who can't suck it up and stay focused for his first EASY practices, shows weakness. Maybe his ego took a hit on draft day and hes still a little mopie about it.

 

I don't really see what the issue is here. He is a rookie, you can expect this up and down ride until he adjusts to the speed of the NFL (workouts/practices/& games). At best I'm expecting him to compete for the 2nd string spot, but fully expect him to be the 3rd stringer going into the season. IMO the true QB competition will be between McCown and Beck for the starting job. Henne has plenty of time to improve and impress.

 

Now if Hagan could just catch the ball .... :wink2:

I wonder what the staff thinks of Camarillo, he didnt play all that poorly last year.

 

Yeah wasn't totally inlove with the Henne pick : /

 

The sooner the Parcells-brand shiny luster on Henne wears off, the better. I don't trust Bill Parcells' ability to evaluate the quarterback position, and it's better for an actual QB competition if Henne isn't viewed as the prodigal child.

 

Derek Hagan is big and fast and can jump. If he could only catch, he would be a damn good WR.

 

In spite of the Anti-Henne, Pro-Beck bias that is in this post and in others, no one is going to be judged by any "pre-packaged luster". Every player is going to be judged by how they perform.

And no trust in Parcells ability to evaluate QBs? Hmm. Thats interesting.

All he did was tutor two different QBs to win him SBs with the Giants, another to take him to a SB with NE, and even another to lead him to the AFCCG with the Jets. And Tony Romo is also a Parcells signee, and I think he's a Pro Bowl caliber QB.

In the meantime, the Dolphins have had Jay Fiedler, AJ Feeley, Sage Rosenfels, a worthless Duante Culpepper, Gus Frerotte, a worthless Trent Green, and Cleo Lemon, just to name some of the guys.

To me, the evidence overwhelmingly supports Parcells. Its not even remotely close. I am the only one?

 

Henne is already being promoted by many simply because Parcells wanted him.

And promoting a fair QB competition does not equate to an anti-Henne bias. If he's good enough, he'll win. If he isn't, he won't. But I suspect the competition is already rigged such that it's not really a competition; starting a rookie Henne would be a big mistake, just as starting a rookie Beck was a big mistake. (Thanks for that one, Mr. Huizenga.)

Simms and Bledsoe are not my idea of franchise quarterbacks. Furthermore, Parcells had nothing to do with Tony Romo's development; Sean Payton pushed to draft him, then pushed to sign him as a UDFA when he went undrafted, and as such he was David Lee's project to develop. Parcells started him only when it became apparent that his guy, Bledsoe, was no longer capable of being a starting quarterback. Then Romo's performance improved noticeably when Parcells left the team.

So, no, I don't exactly agree with Bill Parcells over the attributes of the ideal quarterback. He wants a game manager; I want Dan Marino.

Wannstache is a horrible evaluator of talent, we know this. I'd take Phil Simms over Jay Fiedler no question, but that isn't saying much.
Saban made the best decision he could; Culpepper was coming off knee surgery, while Drew Brees was coming off a 360-degree rotator cuff tear requiring 12 pins to attach his arm to his shoulder and wanted more money to boot.
Cameron made a solid decision, because Trent was the best QB we fielded in 2007, and his presence accelerated Beck's development both in terms of acclimating to the NFL and in terms of proficiency with the Coryell system.

 

Would be a good argument ... if not for the fact that Beck was running the scout team when Green could have done any sort of mentoring. Cam and Mueller made a horrible decision .. trading a 5th for Green and booting Culpepper. We love to hate on him, but he still outplayed anyone on our team with the Raiders.

 

Sounded like the worst of my fears.

 

They had to to take a shot and you never know...the guy could develop into something good.

What a mess the QB situation is in the AFCE. Aside of the cheaters no team from the east has a guaranteed, legit starter. At least we both took steps to protect our unproven QB's. I'm hoping that Gholston abuses Long during the season but I'd almost sell my soul to see someone other then the Pats win the division.

Just the thought of it makes me nauseous. Or it could be the vodka. :pity:

 

I don't quite believe Parcells is really that trustable when it comes to QB's. People spout Tony Romo but Parcells had been against him from the beginning and even brought guys like Drew Henson over to bump out Jones' fave guy. I went on about it in previous post.

 

Again, if you look at history, BP has won alot in this league with alot of different QBs. And why not bring in other QB to compete wtih Romo? It makes sense. That is part of what makes a player good...knowing that you are always bringing in competition.

The idea that Saban and Cameron (two certified failures) get passes, but Parcells can't be trusted because he drafted Henne (a player judged by many as the second best QB in the draft) is ludicrous. BP was one of the only HCs in this league who have won with different QBs. Jimmy Johnson didn't. Bill Belichick didn't. Chuck Noll didn't. Parcells has more credibility than all of these guys and yet he gets his judgement called into question by you rank amateurs.

 

They weren't brought in to compete with Romo. They were brought in as an excuse to dump Romo. If Quincy Carter didn't get those substance abuse allegations and was subsequently off the team, it would've been Romo gone. Parcells won because of his inclination towards defense and power running. May have been enough in the past but doesn't always work in the current league. And one of Parcells' QB's was Ray Lucas, wanna bring him in? Indeed, if you look at his recent history, you'll see QB was a real lacking position on his teams and one reason they weren't able to go far in the playoffs.

I didn't give Saban or Cameron passes. I hated the Culpepper and Green signings. I wanted Brady Quinn over John Beck. That rank amateurs statement goes both way for you, my friend. How can we not pass judgment but you can pass on praise if we're all amateurs?

 

In all honesty the best thing for this football team would be for Chad Henne to end up a great quarterback. He'll be 23 years old. Beck will be 27. That's just the reality of the situation.

But, Beck is still likely to be the QB this year and when he gets a chance, never be surprised when/if John Beck runs away with it.

 

From what I recall BP also pushed for Scott Bruener over Phil Simms. I agree with the assessment that PB is more interested in game managers than game changers, he wants to control the tempo. Fortunately for this issue he's not the head coach so hopefully Sparano has the freedom to do things his way.

 

A Brees Rivers situation would be best, good three years with Beck, trade him, then on to Henne.

 

Trouble with that is, Rivers is a downgrade from Brees.

 

Bro at this point, I would KILL for that situation...downgrade or no.

 

I'd rather be at that point, and keep the better QB. That's just my opinion. I truly believe the Chargers are in the super bowl or wins it by now, with Brees.