One of the big questions about Tua Tagovailoa coming into this year’s draft was whether the hip injury he suffered at Alabama last year would lead to a change in his effectiveness as a quarterback.
The Dolphins bet that it wouldn’t when they made his the fifth overall pick of the draft and offensive coordinator Chan Gailey said on Tuesday that he sees the same quarterback who impressed as a member of the Crimson Tide.
“It looks like it to me,” Gailey said, via Joe Schad of the Palm Beach Post. “I can’t see a real difference. So physically is the one thing that you had the concern about and I think he kind of relieved all our thoughts about that the other night.”
Tagovailoa was 20-for-28 for 248 yards and two touchdowns in last Sunday’s 34-31 win over the Cardinals. Gailey pointed to his “tremendous feel for the game” as the reason he’s able to “throw the ball in some spots that other people might not” and one imagines the Dolphins will lean more on that skill as Tagovailoa grows accustomed to the starting role.
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https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/GailCh0.htm
Mediocre overall, but clearly trending downwards over his career in terms of offensive points scored. Watch how those rankings suddenly vault up with Tua (a prediction I'm making) and you'll see what I'm talking about. -
The way I see it, Parker is getting smothered as our WR1 and Gisecki is getting safety help being covered as well, so it's really about that WR3 to make this offense work at really high levels. Williams is such an ideal fit for that and he's really going to be missed, but let's see how we scheme around him being out. -
I love a few of his play designs but I've also been equally unimpressed with other choices. -
Gaily has been okay for the most part, but there have been some weird calls on his part. Like in this past game, he called a run play on the last possession of the half with no timeouts remaining forcing Tua to spike the ball to stop the clock. Sanders still made a 56-yard field goal, but I think a pass play to pick up more yardage and go out of bounds for an easier kick would have been the smarter play. At worst, Tua could just throw the ball away (properly) and still have a 54-yard try instead of a 56-yard try.
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That said from 56 yards I'm actually less concerned with putting the ball in the center than I am picking up a few more yards. I guess the idea is you hope the run also picks up 2-3 extra but I actually think we lost yardage on the play.
I've had more issues with some of his redzone calls, though they have been better lately, and that pitch to Howard. I have no idea how he thought that would be anything but a loss.
Yeah they arent expecting Howard to take it outside but hes also slower than I am seemingly and any NFL defender is shaking off that initial deception and catching him in PLENTY of time. -
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And this years scoring is relevant. His system has been able to beat the best scoring average ever. The majority of the league hasn't done that. -
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game
So if you think being in the top 25 is something special (i.e., being below average is special), then sure compare to previous years. No, this year is an anomaly and you should not be comparing ppg this year to previous years without adjusting. -
Alls well that ends well though in this case. We got the three points. -
I think Gailey/Tua is a great pairing for the time being. All of this points upwards for Tua's development. Ten years from now, he's going to fondly remember learning from coaches like Gailey and player coaches like Fitz. Hell, it could eventually be something we are all talking about when the day comes where we are all looking back on Tuas career and reminiscing about the glory days of the 2020's.
Back to Gailey, he is an older coach at this point. I remember some people were concerned about that? Back in the day it wasn't uncommon to see 65-70 year old coaches, but these days, they are a lot younger for some reason. Still, Gailey having the mileage and experience that he has is definitely going to help a player like Tua. Tua is a humble young man from everything I have seen of him. He's most likely more than respectful and willing to soak up any knowledge he can gain right now. It's a great pairing for the time being. -
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/index.htm
You look at PPG. PPG average if you don't account for strength of schedule is suspect IMO. Neither one means doodlysquat. And it doesn't take into account points scored by just the offense. But that doesn't take into account going conservative with a lead or at the end of a game. Stats can be sliced and diced to however the slicer wants them to be presented. I had a discussion about 6 sigma charts today and what a pile of crap it is. Our process is so tight and 3simga so far away from the specification limits that when one point is "out of control" the QE wanted me to take a look at it. WHY. Avg. is .04mm. It's .015mm out of the control limits but 4mm away from the spec limit. Waste of time. I deal with a bunch of stat heads that don't understand it's just theoretical sometimes and in the real world I'm not spending my time on that. Had a huge discussion on it with a Phd in Stats. He couldn't actually run anything on the floor and make a profit he's so stuck in analysis paralysis.
But I do like what you do. I like the thoroughness of it in comparing previous years since the games so different and trying to make it apple to apples. But one field goal to be in the top ten of scoring is just like that .02mm IMO. -
As far as slicing and dicing stats any way you want, sure you can do that, but you can't convince experts of anything and everything you want through sliced and diced stats. You'll have to do the analysis right, or at least close enough to right, to convince experts your result is valid.
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https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game
Where are you getting this information from anyway? You should post a link so we can see if the stats in the link are the problem or it's your interpretation. -
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Dude.. please this is embarrassing (from your own link.. give it time to load):
There are 14 teams above 26.7. You are looking at where Miami is TODAY after Tua started 2 games. The entire discussion, from the post you quoted on downwards, was about where we were pre-Tua. OK?
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Pre Tua?? We were talking about Gailey's offense and also Tua. Why did Pre Tua get added as a qualifier? I must have missed something. But I didn't notice that other teams did play nine games so those of use playing only 8 games that means if I take their last game played out - our total points scored looks even better. Thanks for pointing that out.
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In his NFL debut, Tua threw for 1 touchdown, handed the ball of for another off of a defensive turnover and return and was the beneficiary of a defensive touchdown AND Jakeem Grant's punt return for a touchdown, so please...don't go selling any snake oil that Miami's marginal point increase has anything to do with Tua.
Now granted, Tua and the offense were responsible for all 34 points scored against the Cardinals, but then again so was Fitzpatrick in his two 30+ point wins against the Jaguars (31 points), the 49ers (43 points).
Good God Almighty, stat sheets are useful but criminey, you actually have to KNOW the game brad. Tua has played well, and I expect him to keep playing well but HE is not the reason for that point increase. -
Also.. note that you're talking to yourself there. I never claimed Tua was responsible for all points scored. All that can be adjusted for at the end. Fact is you were wrong about pre-Tua ppg. -
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Lawson scoop and score against the Cardinals
But no, TUA scored all of those points, not the defense. -
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This is the problem when you use nothing but stats and not the entire game itself. In fact, take away the defensive and special teams scores, Miami loses to the Rams 17-14...and we lose to the Cardinals 31-27.
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I'm quite careful in my language TDK. I never said nor implied what you claimed I did. -
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