he really was accurate when he said he's been watching this garbage for two years..

does not reflect Well on the qbs...cutler has only played two games so he has time to rectify

 

Doesn’t bode well for Gase either. He’s the one designing and play calling this garbage.

I wish we would script the first 15 plays so we could get off to a good start. Granted things might not go as planned. But if everyone knows what we’re doing we shouldn’t have issues executing them.

 

I would like to them try to get the RBs more involved in the passing game. It can open things up. It's tough to defend. It can take some pressure off the OL, etc, etc.

 

Yeeeesh.

 

Yea bro, way to blame Tannehill for everything. :001_rolleyes:

 

I think most people would interpret "31st in converting 3rd downs" as "3rd down conversion percentage", not as "total number of 3rd downs made". You're listing the total number of 3rd downs made instead of how often we converted.

In general efficiency stats tend to correlate a lot more with winning than volume stats so you'd rather list those anyway (exceptions exist: e.g. total number of receiving TD's is one of the best predictors of a WR entering the HoF).

So.. efficiency stats for 2016:
25th in 3rd down conversion percentage
32nd in 4th down conversion percentage
18th in 1st down percentage (passing)
21st in 1st down percentage (rushing)
etc...

http://www.nfl.com/stats/

Anyway, "garbage offense" by many measures is correct, but keep in mind not all offensive stats were "garbage". Some were really good, like "yards per play" where we were 8th, or passer rating among starting QB's where we were 12th (and our backup was even better).

Overall, the one stat that trumps them all is points scored, and we were 17th there, so I'm going with "average offense".

 

I don't understand why we run so few crossing routes, and seem to rarely throw short passes to backs. I would think slants and crossing patterns would be great with Landry, Stills, and Grant.

 

Absofreakinglutely the worst one INT game I've ever seen. Total F-ing garbage. One more performance like that and I'd fire everyone. Don't know who to replace them with but if that;s the best we can do, I'll take over. Can't do worse. Neither can this guy.

 

These numbers support how reliant we were on big plays last season. The explosive play stuff doesn't show up as much in things like 3rd down conversions.

We were SECOND in the NFL last year in "big play percentage": run plays of 10+ yards and pass plays of 25+ yards.

Some of that was probably flukey, as big plays tend to be. But the point remains that those plays are what kept us competitive in lots of games when we struggled to consistently move the sticks and put drives together.

 

last year we sucked on third down and we sucked on plays per game, and below average on points per game...we sucked.

 

In 2016 the average points scored over 16 games was 364.4. The Dolphins scored 363 points in 2016.

In terms of points per game, that comes out to 0.0875 ppg less than league average. I think it's much better to say the Dolphins were almost exactly at league average in the most important offensive stat: points per game.

 

heeeeeey now Cbrad...answer the question factually, below average or not based on the numbers?

 

Techically it's below average, but like I said that's not a good way of representing things. Best way is that we were almost exactly average in points scored per game.

 

your the numbers man, thought you would appreciate that...technically speaking.

 

I do, haha!

OK, just so we have a counter to your technically correct statement, let me respond with a different technically correct statement that discriminates among teams better (because there were 16 below average teams by ppg last year):

The Dolphins were closer to league average in points scored per game than any other team in 2016.

 

sorry C-brad...I win this one...its undebatable that were below league average..

YEAH BABY!!! I beat C-Brad!!!!!!!!....mmmm can you feel that!!!!


I feel so smart..ahhhhhhh

 

haha.

Well.. I wouldn't mind agreeing that you beat me IF you could provide evidence I ever disagreed with you. Even in the original post #13 I literally said we were "0.0875 ppg less than league average".

So it's really a strawman to say I was arguing you were wrong. And if I wasn't even disagreeing.. how could you win? :smile:

 

lol..instead of you saying the words ''I disagree'' you said '' its better to say''

I see... the Cbrad way of disagreeing...gotcha :ffic:

 

I couldn't say "I disagree" because I proved you were right by doing the calculations. Usually if I disagree with something I'll state that directly.

 

I've seen enough short slants these past 5 years. Enough passes behind the LOS as well.

 

I'm not talking short slants. I'm talking like 10-15 yards. And not behind los to backs.

 

You of all people should know the answer to that question.

 

i have a feeling major changes will happen if we get blown out by Brees and the Saints

 

A good coach will make those changes before getting blown out! It won't be as easy as just getting rid of a few bad guards this time around, so in some sense this is a better test of Gase as a HC than last year (though I was thoroughly impressed with that turnaround last year). I mean.. it's like that never-die attitude we had last year just evaporated.