Rule 1: don't trade with Fin-O while drunk.

 

This isn't a good idea BTW. It's just gonna make us veterans seem like underhanded used car salesmen. :shifty:

 

Google players before you release them.

Do not undersell your players when the first buyer approaches in a trade. Don't be afraid to shop and message other GMs before pulling the trigger.

Keep your team page organized. Know what positions you need filled and how many. Be sure to have enough space to fill a full roster.


People overpay in free agency. Do not cut someone unless you're ok with them signing elsewhere because it'll probably happen.

It only takes two GMs to like a particular player to run up his price.

Don't place bids on players to solely run up the price. There's a good chance you'll get stuck with a player you didn't really want.

Never negotiate with Boik14. He's the kind of guy that picks up chicks at an abortion clinic.

Do not give away good wide receivers. They are overvalued in this league.

Do not be afraid to reach in the draft if you like a player. Just be able to back up your reasoning.

Did you update your team page yet? Yes? Well do it again.

People aren't going to agree with you about the talent level of some players. Get over it.

Lastly, just make this more about the opportunity to get to know other posters and learn about another NFL Team and the upcoming rookie and free agent class. Just have fun.

 

Some of you are.

 

This is all 100% true but the last two are 10000%.

 

Google players before you release them.

So much that. Also use http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/ to get an idea of where your players fall in and stuff. Use Rotoworld to get some blurbs. Use ProFootballFocus if metrics are your fancy (I'll leave the infomercial to Van). AdvancedNFLStats.

There's nothing worse than a GM who has no idea what the hell he or she is doing. So many years I see RFAs who are great players go untagged because the GM isn't familiar with them.

 

But screw "Lastly, just make this more about the opportunity to get to know other posters and learn about another NFL Team and the upcoming rookie and free agent class. Just have fun." I don't want to know any of you people.

 

but don't do so in a way that compromises the integrity of a real NFL draft, or else you'll get dinged for it. For instance, if you need an offensive lineman and there's a quality one sitting there for the taking who meets your scheme needs, and you pass on him to overdraft a WR, RB, or TE in Madden fashion in a way that would never happen in a real NFL draft, it should and will look poorly on you by many GM's, especially the more knowledgeable ones.

 

I already listed Rule 1. :shifty:

 

pray gish shows up to yell at paul sometime.

 

I dunno, it depends. If someone would have drafted Jenkins in Rd 2, we would have said it was a reach before the draft, not a reach during the draft, and then a reach after the draft. There's no way of really knowing until after the voting is long done.

(FWIW, I didn't like Jenkins much when Stitches took him that year, though he was on my list behind Hilton and a couple of guys who wound up sucking I think)

 

Yeah but you don't like people so you don't count.

 

what the hell yyou doinghere then?

 

I...



You win

 

Paul needs me, even more than Griddles' mom does in fact.

 

Dammit I told that stupid bimbo not to tell anyone where we met!

WTF, you had to agree with him? What did I ever do to you? :(

 

cause hes just trying to give you furry dices and calling it a steal for a extra million

 

I think the best advice is don't be afraid to make offers or inquire about good players. Most GMs want to make deals no matter how much they like their players. The worst thing they can do is tell you to get lost, but who cares. Some of the biggest blockbuster deals I've made started off with either me or the other person saying it would be really difficult to get a player in question.

I also think it's best to go about making deals that are fair. Don't go looking to rip someone off or try and squeeze every last penny out of them. If you make a fair offer, and fair deals, GMs you've dealt with come back to you looking to make more deals. That's why I have already made multiple deals with the same GM, and in other cases made deals with GMs who I've spoken to about other players, but we weren't able to make something happen. There is a mutual respect there though, and IMO that's how it should be.

 

LMAO, FTW!! :chuckle:

 

Whoa nellie, relax. Mach is ok. He runs his league, Pauls running this one. Machs been a part of a few leagues here. Appreciate you defending the board. If I need that you'll be at the top of the list. :)

 

...or he wants to make sure he receives fair compensation for a player that others might not know enough about, especially when he's a L.O.B member. An informed league is a better league. Byron Maxwell, case in point. It's mostly Miami fans here, not Seattle, so most of the GMs would've thought of him as just a backup filling in nicely for Brandon Browner, when in fact he was one of the best corners in the league during his 8 starts. If one of your guys is playing at a high level, like Maxwell is, and you as the GM know he's playing at a high level, then you're obviously NOT gonna trade him for less than he's worth just b/c many of the GM's are unaware of him. And if anything, if I decide to keep him, I shouldn't have to be dinged by an uninformed league for starting a guy they falsely perceive is just a backup or something.

Same goes for linebacker Malcolm Smith. And he's a perfect anti-example of what I said above b/c I should've been talking him up along with Maxwell since he was SB MVP, the 5th rated 4-3 OLB, and is just an athletic freak who runs a 4.44 with a 39" vertical. A handful of GM's will probably ding me for not upgrading the position just b/c Malcolm is a less known linebacker even though he's playing at a very high level. Supporting this is the fact that NO ONE has even sniffed about him even though he's been a considerable upgrade to Leroy Hill. That's just ridiculous, especially at his price. Had I never shared Maxwell's prowess with everyone, he would've similarly been deemed an afterthought. Now he's a high 2nd round value, just where he should be.... even though I'll probably end up keeping him.

My advice to new GMs is to do the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of what Fin-O intimated. We GM's know about our own team and the team we follow [which is mostly Miami] but we don't always know about the rest of the league, so if you discover by taking over a team that you have a stud player in your midst, then chances are that much of the rest of the league doesn't know about him. Therefore it's only in your and the league's best interest that, if you have a secret superstar on your team, let everyone know about him.

Just think about. Most of us only know the stat producing positions- QB, RB, WR, and pass rushers. We can understand passing, rushing, and receiving yards, TDs, and sacks; however, performance by a cornerback or linebacker falls under the surface b/c he can't be clearly defined by his stats. Case in point, everyone understands the type of great season Riley Cooper had. He doesn't have to be "sold" to anyone, but how many would've noticed Maxwell & Malcolm Smith playing at an even higher level as illustrated in this PFF article?

Only an idiot would wanna keep what Maxwell & Wright did this year a secret and undermine their true value. This is also a great reason to research your team to see if you can uncover some hidden gems who can bring you extra value that you would've otherwise missed. Would Baltimore have released Marlon Brown had one of us spoke up about Brown's true value & potential?

 

there's overdrafting and then there's overdrafting. I think you're trying to combine the two into one category. Besides, you're not voting on your own team for GM of the Year, so if everyone else thinks you heavily overdrafted a player, that's all that matters. If you've got a big hole at LT and take Tre Mason with the 15th pick instead of Taylor Lewan just b/c you want one of the draft's best backs, then you're overdrafting to a level that compromises draft and league integrity by ruining the realism of it.

 

I disagree slightly. What if you feel there is a prospect you like more that will be available later but you know Mason won't be?

It isn't quite that black and white even though I agree with your point

 

He isn't desperate. I actually offered a second for Maxwell and he declined. If he didn't mean what he's saying he'd have taken it and ran.

 

I got Sammy Watkins you all can make the official now

 

Phinsational makes hall of fame speech about player............cuts him the next day.

 

So wait.

When we submit a trade proposal, are we not supposed to attach a dick pick as well?

 

who says I'm desperately seeking a trade? If I were desperately seeking a trade they either would've been gone, dumdum, or I would've spent more time letting people know about how great Malcolm Smith has been. I would've taken one of the the 2nd rounders offered for Maxwell or one of the many "player + pick" offers, but I think his value is higher than that, especially at his cheap price tag and knowing it'd cost me at least $10 million in FA to replace his production. You can offer me a high 2nd right now publicly as a take it or leave it deal, and I'll reject it. The only thing I was desperate for was acquiring a 3rd rounder to get the Miller deal done, and I did everything I could to NOT have to use Irvin to get the 3rd if I didn't have to.

 

stop stop no one wants furry dices with your used cars

 

Did it involve cuddling and some Wham "Careless Whisper"?

 

You say off topic. I say a perfect example of some of the message. Don't take it too serious and have some fun.

 

Like I said, there's overdrafting and then there's overdrafting. Most of us can distinguish the two. There's treating this like a real draft and real league, and there's treating it like Madden. Most of us can distinguish the two. Using the Tre Mason example, if no one on the planet is suggesting him as a top 20 pick and you hypothetically happen take him at 15 just b/c you wanna be the first to get him, then you should be knocked for it. But that's just one instance. If one guy employs that mentality early on, it can change the tone for the entire draft and create a snowball affect. If you have ten GMs all heavily overdrafting the WRs and RBs simply b/c they wanna pad the "stat positions" or to not be left missing out on them b/c they see other GM's overdrafting those positions, and they do so in gross negligence of their needs and other players on the board, then that ruins the integrity and realism.

 

Like me taking Rambo in the 3rd ;p