What do you guys think? Does he fit Coyle's scheme?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ng-elvis-dumervil-wants-it-sooner-than-later/
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he would cost a lot. rather draft someone and see how vernon pans out.
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An interesting part of Pro Football Focus the other day I found is that they have articles comparing players to how they played and what their cap hit was. When looking at the Defensive End article of it, Dumervil was #1.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/03/07/performance-based-value-edge-rushers/
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Don't see Dumervil as a fit. He's not that big 5 technique end that Cincinnati used with Carlos Dunlap or Miami used with Jared Odrick. I don't think he's good enough in reverse to play SAM. IMO, he'd be a 3rd down pass-rusher, but a REALLY expensive one.
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jboogie The sky is NOT falling!
Xavier Rhodes would help Wake, or just solid CB play in general.
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I'd take Dumervil. On 2nd, 3rd and long - we need a guy like that. With he and Wake on both sides, it would be like Freeney and Mathis. That is a huge factor in late game situations.
How many games are won/lost on 4th quarter drives? A ton. I've seen teams drive on Miami many times in late games situations.
I don't think Vernon is a "sudden-impact" pass rusher; nor is Odrick.NolesNPhinsFan likes this. -
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I think you're looking at fairly narrow styles of player on either end of it.
Replacing Odrick would be difficult, because you're looking for someone who can play basically as a 3-4 DE one snap and a edge rusher against an LT the next. They'd rather have someone who can do the former than the latter in the base packages it seems, and there aren't a lot of guys who fit the mold of both.
If you're looking for the guy who replaces Odrick in Nickel packages it is a bit easier, but then you're looking at a specific price tier. How much do you pay for a defensive end playing +/- 50% snaps? The expenditure has to fit. The guy also has to be able to play on the defense's right side, and it wouldn't hurt if he can play coverage too. Dumervil fits, I think, it's more a matter of price. -
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Killed it at the combine: 4.59 forty (4.47 pro day) 1.53 10 yard. 6.87 3 cone. 4.18 shuttle. 40.5 vertical. 10'08" broad. Has been a 3-4 OLB in Houston.
16 passes broken up in 3 years (in NFL).
Misi: 4.75 forty. 1.64 10 yard. 7.07 3 cone. 4.27 shuttle. 38 vertical. 10'07" broad. 5 passes broken up in 3 years.
Barwin would perhaps need to drop 10 pounds to get at a weight better suited for the position but IMO he's more athletic for it and with greater big play ability since he can catch, swat passes, and create more pressure. -
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disagree on Rhodes making our pass rush better .... it is the pass rush that makes CB 'seem' better.
No pass rush ... i don't care how good your CBs are.
Phenominal pass rush makes average CBs look very good .... bring Avril in here -- and you'll see a phenominal pass rush for the next 3-5 years. -
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