http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/palm-beach/fl-pay-for-miles-driven-20130330,0,1955800.story
Thoughts?
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People are driving less, because gas is so high. And they could easily find the money (across the board for the government) if they didn't have the incredibly stupid and wasteful practice of spending X to get X+Y the next year in budget. When the government stops burning surplus money on pointless projects so they can get more money the next year, then I'll hear what they have to say.anditsgood, ToddPhin, Boik14 and 8 others like this. -
Heh, idiots what happens when people simply register their cars out of state, or keep them registered in the state they just moved from?
Greedy bastids aren't they though.steveincolorado and azfinfanmang like this. -
Love the smell of taxes in the morning. Can't wait to be tracked then taxed on the way to work/school.
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Uuuuuh, no.
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For me, I can get from my house to DFW:
Via Toll Road-30 mins
Via "Other Routes"-50 mins.
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Funny thing about toll roads, it's the same for some people as driving 15 miles to save 5 cents on a gallon of gas, some folks just won't use them if at all possible.
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My brother in law drives, from Eastern Plano, all the way to Western Frisco just to save 4 cents a gallon on gas. He is an educated man... blows me away.
My Mother in law, to her credit, has been driving these same roads since eons before the toll roads were up, so she actually feels they are an encroachment to the roads she has always driven. She scowls when she rides with me and I make my way up the ramp rofl. -
If they start charging for miles driven, they definitely need to remove the state taxes at the gas pump.
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These are the sorts of stupid ideas that will drive me to become a low-tax Republican.
First, not that many people drive these high mileage cars to make a real dent in what they're talking about. Second, as was noted before, people drive less because gas is expensive. Yesterday I filed up for 3.85 a gallon. In 2001-2 when I drove across this country, it was .98 off I-95 in Georgia.MikeHoncho likes this. -
The idea is to get rid of the Gas Tax. -
This is a good idea, but only if they keep the gas tax.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/vehicle-miles-driven-2012-12
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I remember what happened on a micro scale and I doubt I was alone. Everyone I knew found ways to travel less. Less trips to the store. Less trips for entertainment. That meant less driving, that meant less spending. Hell, the Great Gas Gouge, seemingly helped Amazon and e-commerce:
I personally feel that the gas prices were a major factor in the Housing Bubble Burst. Again, people were paying 3 times in gas what they were used to. They had to get to work. People living tight, (the exact demographic that would have 2 year arms on their mortgages) could not make ends meet with that kind of increase in gas....especially when you factor in what fuel did to the prices of every thing else.
They haven't gone down either. This is the new reality. People are adapting, but part of that is simply less travel. -
But not surprising the government would ever to make sure to frame this in a way to get more money for government to spend. -
The major problem with this tax is that millions of tourists come to Florida in their own cars every year. They also use the roads and yet since they don't live in Florida, there is no way they would be taxed for the use of Florida roads unless they happen to drive on a toll road.
The only fair way to fund the repair of roads would be to increase the gas tax. That would insure that everyone who drives on roads in Florida would have to help pay for the wear and tear of the roads. This idea of just having the citizens of Florida pay two cents a mile is totally absurd.MikeHoncho likes this. -
those pesky tourist. always drivin on our roads all smug like. -
As far as the tourists providing jobs to Florida citizens. While I will agree that this is true, I would also argue that most of these jobs in the tourist industry are low paying jobs with little or no benefits. Florida would be better off to rely less on tourism and instead develop a technology based economy. This would bring higher paying jobs to the state, along with a better educated population. It is the reliance on tourism to an extreme which has caused Florida to rank near the bottom in median family income and in money spent on childhood education. -
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I had thought about moving out west when I retired 8 years ago, but we decided to remain in Florida, only because of family. The grandchildren are getting older and they could always come to our new home and visit us during the summer, if they want to. I would actually prefer to live in Colorado, California, Oregon, Washington, or Hawaii. So I'm not really concerned about having to pay this stupid fee, because I would merely get the hell out of this state if this law ever passed. -
shula_guy Well-Known Member
I think its a great idea. It gives them a reason to require everyone to install a tracking device in our vehicles so they can mail you speeding tickets too. Sounds like a wonderful idea. Maybe they can figure out a way to monitor if your seat belt is on too so they can mail you a ticket for that as well. Count me all in
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Thankfully all this technology requires little/no overhead, little complication and zero risk of compromise server side.
On a serious note, my hope would be that -- all things considered -- they'd realize what a bear this would be to administer and how much could go wrong with it.shula_guy likes this.