Doesnt beieive in his speed. Perhaps rightly so.

 

Would have def picked up another 10-15 yards at least. That will be what gets said in film study I'm sure.

 

This kid will be "learning" for years. When he gets a bur in his ***, he goes after it with ferocity. I'm very thankful he's on this team.

 

WTF? Where does that even come from?

Sims ran into him. That is why it wasn't more yards.

 

Before then, he cuts left and #37 blows by him. Had Landy hit the gas and leaned left continuing straight on he had space. Instead he then tries to juke right, it doesn't work and he has to start dancing, which doesn't work. He basically tried to do too much and stopped his forward motion.

 

First of all, I was talking specifically of the "he doesn't trust his speed" silliness.

Secondly, EVERY open run beyond the line of scrimmage has more than one way to go. Even ones that are successful have another way to go that could be successful. You're acting as if this is a problem and it is not.

 

How about the "touch" on that throw?

 

Shows what a well placed ball can do to allow for a good RAC. Sims should have hustled down the field faster. Then he would have had a better opportunity to block someone and not gotten in Landrys way.

LOL, one of the Dolphins announcers called him Greg Landry, which, in all fairness, he did correct afterwards.

 

This is how we should've been using him and Clay last season. Didn't see enough of this kind of attacking down the middle. Keep it up.

 

Sims lightly jogging down the field like a a spectator.

 

I don't think it's silliness. That was my first thought too. Guys who trust their speed have a tendency to be north-south runners in the open field. Guys who don't, tend to get creative moving east and west. After watching the play a few times, I don't think Landry believed he had the speed to cut inside and stay inside and score. Obviously had Jarvis and Sims not ran into each other, there were more yards to be had, as you say. Having said that, if Jarvis had some more speed, I don't think he ever cuts back outside after his initial cut inside.

 

This is a spectacular throw by Tannehill!

This throw was off of his back foot, without a full "throw progression", that went around 26 yards in the air WITH accuracy and anticipation. He even had guys in his face amid that throw. Landry doesn't even make his break or look back until after the ball is thrown. Anticipation with accuracy without a full throw progression. Beautiful.

I noticed this last year, where Tannehill has learned to throw effectively from different throwing angles/windows. There was a 2-yard TD pass with a sideways flick that made me realize, "Hey, this guy is starting to get it".

This is what separates the good-to-great NFL QBs from the mediocre ones. ALL starting NFL QBs have the ability to throw accurately from a clean pocket. Not all have the ability to throw accurately with anticipation from a 'not-so-clean' one.

The Red Zone throws are nice to see, too. The windows are tighter in that area, and I think he will have more conversions this year than in years past.

Why I am excited to see throws like this particular one is that I know this line is not Miami's strongest unit. So Tannehill MUST master his craft in order for this offense to hit on all cylinders. He will not always throw from a clean pocket. But getting the ball to the players with accuracy and anticipation will allow the receivers and backs to make plays, and these other positions on offense I think are strong. Let those guys make plays.

Helluva throw. It's coming together for him.

 

[video=twitter;638024923684978689]https://twitter.com/MiamiDolphins/status/638024923684978689[/video]

 

The problem with this is that your trying to make this more than it is, this is what he's EXPECTED to do, he hit a wide open WR 20yards directly in front of him, it was a good throw, lets save "spectacular" for when it's appropriate.

 

Off of his back foot without the ability to make a through progression + before the receiver makes his break and turns + with defenders in his face = spectacular in my book.

Not all NFL QBs make this throw.

 

Well he didn't need to go through progressions, Landry was wide open, throwing to a WR before he turns his head is expected, that is part of being a QB, as far as the pressure, he didn't even see it, he was standing in his spot in the pocket.

These throws are expected of franchise QBs, if you can't make that throw your not a very good QB.

The reason you want to lift it to spectacular is because Tanne has struggled making these throws in the past, which is why there are so many of us that say he still has to prove it, because this is an easy NFL throw for a quality QB.

 

Lol that was a really good throw. Under pressure, no full motion, back foot, flick of the wrist into perfect placement. Not all QBs make that throw.

You know, it's OK to compliment your QB. You won't die suddenly from a lightning bolt or anything like that. It's safe...

 

Yes, not all QBs make that throw, but those are problem QBs, that throw is expected of quality QBs, and the pressure is getting blown out of proportion, he was slightly leaning back, he did not move from his position however, and as I said in my first comment, "it was a good throw".

If I don't praise him mightily enough I guess it isn't a compliment in your eyes.

 

I agree with this..but its ok..

 

brandon marshall is the king of this.

 

no i thnk it was a great throw, his delivery was completely affected by the pressure so he in an instant adjusted.

 

Throwing under pressure is part of the job description though, again, I think the over excitement of this throw is because he doesn't normally make them, but quality QBs do make them, every game, do you think they would get this excited in Pittsburgh because of that throw? No, that throw isn't in the impressive list for Ben, that is more avg for Ben, expected, because you expect him to make those throws, under worse pressure than that, and further down field.

It is a very good sign to see Tanne making throws he should make, and a wide open WR right in the middle of the field at 20 yards is a throw you should complete, even under pressure, for a quality QB, saying Tanne is better than the lousy QBs is over, he now has to be compared with the franchise QBs, the bar is raised, and for a franchise QB that is a good throw, and I'm happy to see it.

 

WADR, you say he doesn't "trust" his speed, but then say he didn't get more yards because he didn't have more speed. Those are two different things.

Also, we as fans forget we have a completely different view of the field than the players have. The lanes/openings we see look wholly different from their perspective.

This had nothing to do with "trusting" his speed (which, full disclosure, I don't believe is a thing and if it where, I seriously doubt any of us have ever seen it enough to properly diagnose it from a TV) and everything to do with doing the most he could with his limitations (his actual speed, vision, etc.) and Sims losing sight of him while correctly blocking his man.

Basically, these things happen. Guys that know they are fast don't break them all the time. There's no problem or issue here.

 

By "throw progression", I mean he doesn't get into all of his throw. Has nothing to do with "reading through his progressions" if you had read my initial post. Flick of the wrist as another poster put it is another way to describe it.

The throw was spectacular by definition. Regardless if you choose to coin it that way or not. You said it beautifully: these throws are expected of franchise QBs. I think he is growing into one.

I do not think this is an "easy" throw for any QB, but quality QBs do make this throw. So I believe you are wrong there.

Regardless how you would describe it, the throw in itself is a good sign for this particular QB.

 

It's in no way a throw, at least for me, that overly excites. It's only exciting in the fact that he is growing. And that growth is exciting to see.

And I think that throw is impressive. To not be able to step into your throw, and hit a receiver 25+yds downfield before the receiver makes his break is impressive, regardless of the QB.

 

hmmm, good throw or great throw.?

i think because he couldn't follow thru and had to put some touch on the throw, and anticipate, I'll split the difference with ya..a little better than good.

 

It actually looks like he did a little side arm flick, to avoid the arm of a defender.

 

It's so crazy...we have posters who constantly want to degrade everything Tannehill does. He throws for 4k? So what, everyone does it (not true). He had a 92 rating on the year. So what, he wasn't in the top 10 with that (arguable based on total attempts). He put up good numbers despite failures of other parts of the team. So what, he didn't make the playoffs. He made a great throw, off his back foot, with pressure in his face, without being able to use a full throwing motion. So what, any good QB can do that (not true).

Geez, guys, when did everyone become such Debbie Downers? Be happy we have a a QB and a team that is finally looking good. You don't have to talk Tannehill down all the time.

 

Fair enough, again, I am comparing him to quality QBs, and I did say it was a good franchise QB throw, I think that's pretty high praise, and I think we actually see it as the same pretty much, and I think we're both glad to see it, that's the important part, we're seeing it, and I think you'd probably agree with that.

I do have us agreeing quite a bit in that sentence. :yes:

 

I suggest you watch the play a few times in slow motion, and do nothing but watch 17. He takes snap at 16 yard line, fakes handoff and one step drop...no pressure up middle it comes from his blind side...DEs arm comes up and Tanny off back foot, adjusts arm angle, and flicks ball..dropping it perfectly over the linebacker ...where Landry catches it at 41. He flicked a perfect ball 27 yards in the air off back foot, arm in his face....it was an amazing throw..

 

DJ...I watched the play 20 times in slow motion on Gamepass....when you realize the subtle adjustment he made to make that throw
...youll appreciate it. It was alot better then good

 

When I watched it....heres how I described the throw. Have you ever seen someone really good at throwing darts? Its a perfect flick wrist motion, and they can hit any area on board they want. Thats what that throw was when you slow it down and see it...