hi level talent..meets hard work = Star player.
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He'd have to grow a lot but maybe an Andre Johnson slightly past his prime? -
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If Parker can be a lite version of AJ Green or Julio Jones, then things are awesome. -
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I see Parker as a big play WR, not a grinder like Andre, besides we have a grinder in Landry and another potential grinder in Caroo, so I would see no need to try and turn Parker into that type of WR and I don't think that would be the proper use of his natural talents.Tin Indian likes this. -
Dez is looking to clear space so he could make the catch. He's strong so he has rac highlights too. But different styles imo.P h i N s A N i T y likes this. -
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But AJ Green is in that Johnson category as well, not in the deep threat category. These are the big play receivers, not necessary deep threat receivers (and yes there is overlap). That said, I'd place Parker in this category as well. He's not a burner, he's an Alshon Jeffery type WR imo. Not gonna burn defenses by being fast but gets down the field, and uses size and strength to win the point. -
Given that the completion rate on deep throws isn't that great of rather have big yardage plays which can be found at a higher percentage overall.
Look at Stills for instance. Many of his gains were on deep balls, but he was out gained by slower receivers overall statistically.Dol-Fan Dupree likes this. -
But get this, with Drew Brees, he was catching 70-75% of the balls thrown his way, and they were at an average of 14 yards from the LOS. Which is deep. You see 70% catch percentages from slot guys, close to the LOS. Stills was ridiculous those two years even if the targets were low.
Landry last year, who improved from the year before, had 8.67 ypt. Stills was at 8.96 but caught only 52% of his targets. In 2014 it was 11 ypt and a 75% catch rate. In 2013 it was 12.82.
For whatever reason, Stills in Miami is only catching ~50% of his targets, when he was above 70% his entire time in NO. Some might say Drew Brees, which might make sense with Brandin Cooks averaging 65% catch rates and his passes being fairly deep as well. -
http://img.pixady.com/2017/05/843737_andre_johnson_vs_plaxico_burress.png
In terms of raw numbers Andre Johnson had far more big plays than Plaxico because he had more receptions (almost twice as many: 1062 vs. 553), but when you normalize like in the graph above you see that Plaxico was actually more likely to have a big play.
If you just have a cutoff at say 20 yards, then you find that Plaxico caught 20+ yarders 26.8% of the time (meaning.. of all catches) while Andre caught 20+ yarders 21.3% of the time. Whether you guys consider that 5% difference meaningful or not is up to you (I can't answer that question through stats right now because I only looked at these 2 WR's.. I'd need to look at 20 or so before I know what the variance in these plots looks like).Last edited: May 22, 2017 -
For me, when I talk about big plays, I'm mostly talking about TDs, to me, most big plays end up in the EZ, and Andre caught a TD every 15 catches while Plax caught one every 8.5 catches, which is close to a 2-1 margin.
Parker is one of the WRs that can work underneath and over the top, he took that Rams game over late on short passes and he's already made several deep highlight type plays, WRs like that are rare, if he can up his game he can be quite dangerous imo.danmarino likes this. -
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Pfft. All conjecture. Going to wait for the season to see proof. Been duped too often on the Hallmark'ed up offseason reporting. We're always going to be the second coming of the 72 Phins this time of year. Hope it's true though!
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That's where I was hoping the Gase factor would pay dividends. He seems to do a great job of conveying to players what they need to do and getting them to follow through. I also think that Landry and Stills deserve some credit if Parker truly blossoms. Both are reportedly very professional and dedicated athletes. It's hard to be the guy among those two who is always hurt, doing minimal work, not eating right, etc. and not feel like a slacker. IMO those guys raise the professionalism standard for that unit and provide peer pressure for the other guys to meet that standard.Redwine4all, Tin Indian, eltos_lightfoot and 3 others like this. -
Very glad to hear this about Parker.
And Gase is helping us get greatness from players instead of them busting. To be blunt.
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