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I actually would like to select him with our 12th overall pick, BUT...

...everybody looks good in highlight videos :glare:

 

It's fun right Sceeto, ive seen so much of tavon it's becoming a problem... check it out, this kid can be Lamar's compliment weve been looking for, as well as the explosive slot and speed x..there's not another kid that can do that..he's Lamike James with the ball in his hands and here we are trying to find a running back to help Lamar..fu&$ that, draft this kid and use all that pretty ***..

I think the highlight business is getting pretty cool, for the kids that are gonna get drafted im sure theres a good business angle there, that one was well done.

 

Totally agree. Highlight video is highlight video.

 

and? Do you have a problem with appreciating it for what it is?

 

This really belongs in the draft forum, no?

 

Seems more to me like he's acknowledging what a highlight video is. Not sure it warrants your somewhat confrontational welcome to the site.

 

Ehhh, man, just enjoy the kid..he's in play for 12, its news everywhere, watch and drool..

Who the **** cares that's its here and it's a highlight video..with Tavon, it doesn't matter, kids gonna be a star.

 

yeah, we all know what a highlight video is. I asked him a simple question. Is that ok with you, or should I ask your permission first next time?

 

Not sure thanking a post that suggests the thread should be moved warrants anything but bitterness, about what, none of my business..

 

Steve must really dislike the idea of Austin with our first pick. lol

 

The play at 3:38 is the play in that video, man, that is just how a Qb improves his qbr..lol

 

Well, at least you're not picky about when you chose to be confrontational. :lol: Also, I'm not "really against" drafting Austin with the 1st pick.

Edit: In regards to your reputation comment directed toward me, I'm not sure how you could interpret my initial post as confrontational, but I apologize if you took it that way. However, I think that people have the tendency to become enamored with highlights and sometimes it's worth pointing out really what they are. I'm not implying that is the case with you - I'm just saying while his observation may be obvious, I think it's fair.

Anyway, just my 2 cents. It's no biggie bro.

Not sure why my thanking of a post is a concern of yours, but I thanked it because it's true. While not a nazi when it comes to organization, I figure it a given that draft related topics ought to be in the draft forum. It's no biggie though as it would be hard to always keep it so.

 

If your not sure, no need for me to explain.

 

I feel the need to back up my original comment, along with you and jaymoney.

[video=youtube;TApPxbmGzP4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TApPxbmGzP4[/video]

3:55 is the same thing everyone is having an orgy over.

 

If we did draft him, WoW... talk about team speed!

 

Because you have different forums for a reason? Post stuff like this *after* he's drafted, I'd imagine. I imagine you've reminded people of the rules once or twice, no?

 

even if i repeat myself....but i want this guy on our team soooooooo bad

 

Would love Austin. Just not that high, personally.

But there is some possibility of it occurring. I thin it's more likely, however, he'll go around 25-35


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I still want Austin or Patterson at 12. I want weapons that make us tough to defend.

 

2:44

 

6:58 I was there to see that live. So awesome.

 

I really like Tavon, I think he would be awesome in our offense, but as a receiver he can be shut down. You notice that return against K-State? That's all he did for that game.

 

Hmm. Ok.

So if its basically silly to get excited by highlight videos, then what are we allowed to see to get us excited about a potential pick? Their measurables? Just their name? Crystal ball?

I mean if actual footage of what a player is capable of, is now not representative of a players ability, how are we supposed to pick players to be excited about? Should we just wait until someone's drafted and give them 3 years before we're allowed, in your book, to be excited about a player's potential?

And ftr, if we had to choose between Austin and Bailey, I'd choose Bailey (but I'm sure that's crazy since I've only watched video on them) so I'm not one of the hardcore Austin supporters.

 

Don't want to burst any bubbles, but Ireland is not gonna draft Austin at 12...he'll go D, likely Xavier Rhodes at #12...that's in his DNA...book it now, he'll take the CB....

Don't get me wrong, everything in my heart and minds says go with Austin...but I don't think he does it...His rationale isn't exactly wrong, because he'll say we have a good group of WRs, we don't need another slot guy who can make plays, Miller will be that kind of player for us now that he's gonna be on the field more, etc...I think he'll talk himself out of taking a player like Austin and go where the bigger need is, at CB...but we can all dream....

 

There is no discernible pattern in Ireland's drafting. You have no idea who he'll draft or what position he's targeting. None of us do.

 

Omar Kelly keeps saying Austin is not in Ireland's profile of size, yet Ireland wanted Harvin? And shouldn't the old profile of size be somewhat modified for Philbin by now?

 

Well, we can agree to disagree, but I think his 'instinct' makes him more comfortable with the D player over the offensive player...and he's spent a lot of resources to shore up the WR position. JMHO, but could he be scared off by the Pat White fiasco with this kid ?? Certainly we have little to no idea who he'll take or at what position, but we can all make swag guesses as to where he'll go...we do it all the time ??

 

I want Austin..no doubt.

But I realllllly want this guy as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TWLXrlF8SE

Can you imagine taking both Austin and Stedman Bailey

 

There's no agreeing to disagree on this one. Its a fact there is no discernible pattern in his drafting at the 1 spot. If there's no pattern, you cannot tell me there's an "instinct" or what's "in his DNA". You have literally no information to argue that, because there isn't any.

Since he's been here, he's drafted in the 1st round:
- OT
- CB
- DT
- C
- QB

In 5 drafts he's drafted 3 offense and 2 defense. They've traded down once. Tannehill wasn't drafted to start that year. There were only 2 widely considered safe picks.

There are no tendencies, no patterns, no "instinct" for you to pull from.

If you think he'll pick X instead of Y, that's fine and great, but at least recognize its purely imagination on your part.

 

What he's done so far with Philbin makes me agree with you that he isn't too scared of changing his comfort zone for what Philbin wants. He's done that with Wallace (Quitcellian Credo #1, no big money on a fa), for example. He's done it with Keller (Quitcellian's credo #2, all TEs have to be blockers first). He's done that with Green Bay (Flynn and Jennings - Quitcelllian credo #3, poach my (coaches) old team with washed up, worn out, never were players because I saw them from the sidelines in the past).

He's certainly made some changes for Philbin and this team...Will he at #12....I just don't know...I still think he reverts somewhat and goes Defense...where he's more comfortable...

EDIT: Actually I'm just preparing myself for the real possibility that he won't want to take Austin at #12, so that I'm not too disappointed when goes D...

 

All the posts on this board are opinions...I was under the assumption that we all knew that... My opinion is that he won't go with Austin because of re-signing Hartline, adding Wallace and Gibson and still having a pretty decent slot guy on the roster with Bess...it's not like we have no starting WRs on the roster now. And we basically have no starting CBs (save for perhaps Marshall, but we haven't seen any of that from him yet and Patterson is much stronger on the inside than the outside). I'm not exactly talking out of my a^% here...I'm putting two and two together and coming up with four...it's not my imagination that we are sorely lacking in the secondary...

 

Look, I'm not trying to break your balls here, but you are talking out of your ***. You are backing up your opinion based on things you claim are instinctual or in Ireland's DNA and that is simply false.

If you were stating your opinion on how we'll draft based on the holes you believe we have, then fine have it, we might have differing opinions on that but who cares...as you said its a site of opinions.

My problem is when you (or anyone) starts saying others are wrong based on made up info....like pretending there's some tendency in Ireland's history of first picks to dictate what he'll do this draft.

 

I'm pretty sure I didn't say anyone else was wrong, and if you took it that way, I'm sorry. I said basically "Be prepared for Irish to NOT take Austin" (how do you like that, I'm paraphasing myself)...I'm not trying to start anything either, just clarifying what I said... It's all good.

 

The thing is, if he's not seriously considering, why has he spent so much time at WVU watching Tavon Austin play?

Just to tally things, Miami has:

1. Watched Tavon Austin in at least 3 separate games this year that Jeff Ireland reportedly attended.
2. Sent three of their top scouts to WVU's pro day to watch him work out.
3. Have scheduled him for a private work out in Miami.

You have a head coach that was part of the scouting process that brought Randall Cobb to Green Bay. You have a GM that not only has shown an affinity for this style of player in the past, but he was going to draft Percy Harvin in 2009 had he been available. What many probably don't know is that Jeff Ireland also really liked Dexter McCluster in the 2010 draft but didn't have a chance to get him. The Dolphins had him in the Senior Bowl and was really impressed with his ability and work ethic.

Drafting Tavon Austin likely improves the overall talent, speed, and explosiveness of the wide receiving corps on the team, which is something the organization has identified that they want to do. He also improves the team's punt return and kick off return ability if they so choose. It allows them to move Davone Bess during the draft for something of value, perhaps a 4th or 5th round pick.

Speed, explosiveness, the ability to make plays with the ball in his hands, scoring touchdowns.......the kid has everything the Dolphins are looking for in the receiver position and offensive play makers this offseason.

 

Nothing for you to apologize for. Again, if your argument is about our "holes" and that's how you predict he'll draft go for it. I've just heard a whole lot every year about Ireland's tendencies in the draft, and they simply don't exist.

I sometimes wish they did though. I'd kind of like it if he was more predictable, because then he could occasionally go against that predictability once and while for a special player. For example, if he had a consistent history of going D or O line in the 1st, then teams who want Tavon might not feel like they need to jump ahead of us.

 

IMO Austin is far more likely than a man CB for a zone based scheme.

 

I am intrigued, but to me it would seem a better compliment to draft Patterson. We'd have a little bit of everything at WR then, speed, size, sure hands, quick underneath, attacking the seam.