Ross is the owner and can do whatever he wants and doesn't have to answer to the fans or anybody else.

Such is life.

All fans can control is how much of their time, money and passion they devote to the team.

While I'm not interested in telling other fans whet they should do it how they should feel, I can say that if you're frustrated you don't have to be a zombie.

Don't buy a ticket or jersey until the team proves it's worthiness to you. Stop being used.

I gave up my season tickets this year and found I didn't miss it still all.

 

Like it or not its Ross's team and he can do as he wishes.

 

You guys are such drama whores. Seriously grow up.

 

I actually like the move of keeping Philbin, but on the whole, I agree with what you're saying.

If you don't want to root for the team, then don't waste your time.

I used to follow the Dolphins insanely as of a few years ago, then I realized that I have no influence and that it was more of an addiction than anything.

I eased back on the throttle and my life is better for it.

You shouldn't be a slave to things that are out of your hands, particularly if you don't even support or like those things.

 

I think you have got to wonder if:

- Ross knew for a fact Harbaugh was going to Michigan
- Ross knew for a fact Malzhan wasn't coming to the NFL yet
- Marino agrees with keeping Philbin

 

Amen.

 

Preach....

 

Fans will do whatever they want, too. Like not show up for games.

 

Hasn't there been a distinct rise in the attendance this year?

It sure looks that way on TV.

I honestly don't think the average fan cares at all who the coach is. If the QB makes you a competitive team that wins at home, you'll be a popular team.

 

This year, yes.

But there wasn't a consensus opinion that the Dolphins should have changed coaches last offseason.

This offseason, there most certainly is. Next year is going to compare more closely to 2011 in terms of fan sentiment and willingness to go to games.

 

Also a good point. For those that think there's some kind of secular attendance rise going on due to some magic performed by Tom Garfinkel or Dennis Hickey, just look around the stadium for today's game after getting embarrassed by the Ravens and Patriots. Expect that next year.

 

Ross looked like an idiot when he coveted Harbaugh last time then ultimately gave Sparano an extension when Harbaugh wasn't interested. I get the feeling that that debacle played a huge part in all this. I also believe that if Ross felt that Harbaugh was on board with coming here this time he wouldn't have announced this move yet. Clearly saving his own ***, or doing all he can to not look like one again.

 

Stadium will be empty next week, no doubt.

Not sure even that many Jets fans will bother

 

The consensus last year was Ireland needed to go.

Honestly, this reminds of Sparano's lame duck year. Everyone knew his time was up and he needed to go. Well, everyone but the doofus owner.

 

Philbin should have been fired regardless. Hold a search and hire a man that is much better qualified than Philbin was when he was hired.

 

Indeed. And he did go. And attendance bounced for half of the year as a result. Until the fans realized it's just the same sh-t going on. Then attendance dropped again. And it'll stay dropped. Like you said, it's going to compare to 2011.

 

He definitely must have known some choices wouldn't be available. I still don't understand the timing though. Why not wait until after the Jets game....if they lose next week, he'll have the same record 2 years in a row. Not exactly progression. However, he was Ross' hand picked selection, so he'll want to give him every chance to succeed.

 

I wonder if Chargers fans who complained every year they retained Norv Turner were labeled drama queens. But I suppose this situation is different because Norv actually took a team to the playoffs.

Enjoy Philbin, zombies. You deserve each other.

 

Norv even got SD to an AFC Championship game one time

 

Agree 100%. I`m not condoning the fact Philbin will be retained, I`m trying to find a reason -as wrong as it is- to justify why Ross would do this stupid move in the first place.

 

The next head coach will be another of his hand picked selections too, and I'm not holding much hope he can do any better the next time. This team is his toy or hobby, and he considers things like picking head coaches and GMs as part of the fun, and he'll be god damned if he is gonna let anyone else deprive him of his fun.

 

Logic and Steve Ross don't often collide in the same sentence. This is the same guy who wanted to replace Ireland but keep him in the organization, as some kind of glorified water boy. This is the football acumen of our owner.

 

Maybe, unless the GM has say. Ireland wanted McCoy and Ross wanted Philbin, so he'll want to justify that decision IMO. Plus, he appears to be pretty damn loyal.

 

I`m really starting to believe this too. Seems he really don't consider his actions might be detrimental to how the fans will react and ultimately lose attendance. Its not like he needs the Dolphins revenue to survive. Certainly sounds like a hobby to me.

 

Hyde nailed it ,by the way.

 

Last week Hyde said that Ross was "certain" to go after Harbaugh & Gamble aka fire Philbin.


Now Ross is a bad owner for keeping Philbin? LOL how about Hyde is a bad journalist for funneling BS and getting people's hopes up just to increase his traffic.

 

Maybe that's why we gave a home game next year in London. More demand because we only have 7 games

 

You have a very nice way of putting things. It's good to have you here.

 

Ross didn't want to compete with Michigan, his alma mater, for Harbaugh, a coach that Michigan really wants.

 

... or Ross is simply HOPING Philbin proves him right, as canning Joe tells the entire world that he made a mistake. Plus, Ross won't want to admit to himself that he made a mistake after previously establishing such a strong belief system about Joe's long term future, which is something that the savvy businessman in him should've known better, especially when the person at hand is still in the prove your worth stage. Here's the quote from July of this year that did Ross in:

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He acknowledges the 2013 disappointment, acknowledges a mindset existed that we should've been in the playoffs, and acknowledges that his expectations at the start of the season are to make the playoffs, but he then head-scratchingly follows it up by stating he expects the ring leader of this disappointment to be here a long time. Way to paint himself into a corner.

Making Ross's statement sound even more retarded is the fact he acknowledges he has a young team that's maturing, which has been clearly evident this season. Ross understands Miami should be winning more games simply because of the ascension of young, maturing players, and the team has done exactly that going from 7-9 to 8-8 to 8-7. This negligible increase is directly proportional to the improvement of the roster, thus it rhetorically begs the question- where's Philbin's impact? How much credit from these 1 win improvements is left to throw Joe's way after the improved roster grabs its majority share? Hell, Miami improves from 7-9 in 2012 to 8-7 in 2014 just on Tannehill's improvement alone. So I ask again, where's evidence of Joe's improvement?

 

Where are people getting this "Ross won't admit he made a mistake" thing?

 

I'm sorry I guess I missed the part where the Chargers have been a perennial superbowl contender since letting Norv go.

 

Because if those first two things are true, firing Philbin and not hiring one of those two guys, Ross might consider a lateral move. I don't think he thinks Rex Ryan or any other available coach (that's not Harbaugh or Malzhan) would be any better than Philbin. I disagree, with Ross, because I think Bowles is gonna be great.

Other than him though, I agree, everyone else is a lateral move.

 

I disagree a little about this being as bad as retaining Sparano for the 2011 season. Sparano's team was on the decline. He was a coach who failed to upgrade/develop the most important position in football, and did so again in 2011. That was in large part due to the fact that he was also paired with a completely inept GM who was retained for about 3 seasons too long. Sparano also declined as a coach after his first successful season.

On the other hand, Philbin has a young QB who has made significant improvement each season. Philbin himself is also improving, at least in terms of wins / losses (assuming Miami beats the Jets). When you factor in the injury to Albert, and what that meant to the team this year I don't think sticking with Philbin is the worst case scenario for this team.

It may not be that far fetched to think that with further improvements to the offensive line and depth on defense, this team can improve again in Philbin's 4th year. If Harbaugh wasn't coming, then retaining Philbin might be the best thing for this team. And it probably will mean decreased season ticket sales for next year. But if Ross's faith in Philbin pays off, the fans will come back. If not, then Ross will have no choice but to do a clean sweep.

 

This is the one thought that keeps crossing my mind, where does Marino stand on Philbin, does he side with Ross on keeping him or did he object but his objection was ignored by Ross.