Your setting yourself up for a dissapointment if your expecting a QB early.

 

I hope so, we need a franchise QB and if Parcells thinks he's the guy, then pull the trigger. I just hope we don't draft a defensive lineman who'll most likely not fit into our defense or a tweener with speed that will be a bust.

 

You're way is setting our franchise back by not addressing the most important position and instead drafting a low impact position

 

I taped alot of BC games this year since we get them up here in philly, and we have to be nuts not to draft Matt Ryan, this franchise is going no where without a QB, Ryan is the best QB to come out of the draft in a long time maybe since brady, he has everything you want, it is not even close,

 

We addressed that need with the second pick last year. You have to take the best player coming out in the draft period. You don’t often get the opportunity to get the very best, and keep other teams from getting the very best. You have to hope we draft very well with our other picks, but number one should be as sure a thing as you can get.

 

Low impact position such as what? DT? DE/OLB? Quite frankly, we already have a young QB that we already drafted. And I don't know about you, but I'm getting tired of running backs constantly penetrating our defensive line like it was made out of air.

 

and what happens if Beck beats him out in TC? Can you say waste of a pick and complete disaster. Do you know what the Fins would have to pay a #1 pick? Until Beck has proven to be a bust which you cant say right now then there is no way they will take a QB with the first pick.

 

Miami is in a unique situation since we haven't had a legitimate starting QB in what seems like forever. We all hope that Beck is the answer, but. If Beck fails, (and I'm not insinuating he will), we will be back on the quarterback carousel trying to sign other team's backups. That hasn't seemed to work for us up to this point. I doubt they take a QB early, but who knows what Parcells will do. Whatever they do I hope the quarterback position is not taken for granit like it has been for so long.

 

Theres one thing to bring in a QB for a competition then theres another bringing in a $40 million dollar player (1st Pick). They better be damn sure Beck isnt the one before they make a commitment like that. Parcells isnt dumb enough to make that mistake.

 

Me too. i dont think Parcells is going to want to hinge verything on Beck. QB first then defense until round 4

 

Your basing this off 3 games on the worst team in football. Fins had no business developing a rookie QB this year especially with the lack of talent, play calling and protection they have.

 

I dont have a problem getting one later in the draft, which I assume they will at some point. I dont want to see the 1st pick going to an unproven QB. The fins already have that. Why take another chance on a rookie QB when we cant say either way about what we have.

 

I think you meant "squeeze"

 

Don't be surprised if we're nuts then. Ryan certainly isn't a clear cut choice for the #1 pick and not nearly as polished/accomplished/talented as some of the guys that have came out since Brady (who wasn't highly regarded at the time, so I'm not sure I understand the comparison). Brady Quinn and Aaron Rodgers were better prospects than Ryan IMO, and look where they were drafted.

Ryan has upside (great size, good enough arm, good pressure awareness, quick release, leadership), but he also has some negatives (inconsistent accuracy, throws off his back foot too much, throws too many across his body, sailing passes that will get picked off in the NFL, too many interceptions, didn't produce much until his senior season, had a low YPA, mainly threw to backs and TEs due to lack of talent at WR).

From what I've seen, he reminds me of AJ Feeley and Joey Harrington. Shows glimpses of being a quality franchise QB, then has several inaccurate throws and turnovers that really hurt the team. I'd rather go with a Chris Long or Vernon Gholston in the 1st and take a chance on a lower tier QB in the 2-4th rounds then to put all of our eggs in the Matt Ryan basket.

 

Have you been at practice? I would bet a lot of money Beck practices better than Lemon. It was well documented in TC that Beck had the best arm and was the better passer, I highly doubt that has changed thru the season. Lemon is starting because he can scramble better. Why start Beck when there is no protection.

 

I am definitely not giving up on Beck, I was impressed by him in his first two starts, and horrified by him in the next two. He is a rookie, inconsitancy is to expected.

Like other people have said, with the #1 overall pick you need to draft a sure thing player, and there are no quarterbacks in this draft that are sure things. I have no problem taking one in the second or third rounds, there are some guys with a lot of potential available like Colt Brennan and Chad Henne, but I don't want one in the first.

Can anybody here say they have 100% confidence that Matt Ryan can adapt to the NFL? I'm not asking do you definitely believe he will be an all pro, I am asking do you think he will make this team good enough to compete? I'm not getting that from any of the scouts opinions that I have read and I'm not arrogant enough to say I'm in a position to argue with them, so I say we go defense. The quickest way to make this team competitive again is to start stopping the run.

 

You don't use a first-round pick just to give competition to a rookie QB.

I swear, if some people here had their way, we'd have 15 RBs and 7 QBs on the roster.

 

Yes but you do use one if you feel beck might not be the answer and you feel you have the answer with the 1st. Time will tell

 

I doubt very much that Parcells will be interested in any of the QBs in this draft, except perhaps a second day selection.

 

Wow.......we're down to giving people 3 games and 1 quarter to prove themselves. So how long would a Matt Ryan get?

A game and a half? A game and a quarter?

 

This makes absolutely no sense, but I get the feeling it was meant to be an insult.

Parcells almost always drafts defense in the first round. Presuming the GM he brings in agrees with his views, then that won't change. Right now I'm thinking Chris Long will be the guy, as long as we don't trade down below the Jets.

 

I would say early rounders that fall into the Parcells category are Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco. Mid rounders Chad Henne and Ainge. late rounders, maybe Morrelli

 

And they might feel this way based on 3.25 games?

 

So you draft a QB in R1....waste a pick....for a ittle camp motivation. If John Beck is the QB that a lot of people think he will be, he doesn't need further motivation.

Good job of answering the question BTW.

 

I don't see how you'd think a shotgun QB in Joe Flacco is a Parcells QB. A Parcells QB is Matt Flynn at LSU; a leader, a kid who can get the ball downfield, accurate and who takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'.

 

No but he was a 2nd rounder for a reason. At 6'2" I doubt Parcells is going to be thrilled with him being our future

 

He was a second rounder because he was one of many QBs who came out in one year. When there are a lot of reasonably-skilled players at the same position in one draft class, they fall. It happened with offensive linemen in the 2006 draft and it happened with QBs in the 2007 draft.

And I'm tired of hearing people bash Beck for being 6'2''. He's taller than Drew Brees, for crying out loud.

 

Matt Ryan = John Elway

 

i agree with u 100% there is way to much presure on a QB that is pick up #1