Yeah, he's getting the deep ball to him, but in practice and in these first 2 games, Hill has had to slightly slow up and reach back to catch it. Hill's speed is so impressive that he can created tons of separation and even has time to slow up if need be to make the catch, but Tua has got to get that ball out in front of him. In tight coverage, and with better teams, those balls get picked.
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Stronger armed QBs can throw it on a rope with flatter trajectory which makes it easier to hit the reciever in stride. Tua does not have the arm strength to do that. He is a spot thrower.Sceeto likes this. -
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Hill literally outruns throws. To catch him deep, you need to throw the ball early in anticipation of him catching up to it. I'd imagine the option is whether to throw it and slow him down or to take a chance and take a chance on an overthrow. For a guy who runs go routes, he catches a lot of balls by facing the throw. In this compilation, there are very few over-the-shoulder and in-stride receptions (the best of which occurs at 6:02). I have a feeling Tua and he will sync up in the next few games.
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The pass was 58 yards in the air and over the defenders, I've got no issue with it. Neither did Kurt Warner.
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Mahomes has attempted 2,500 passes in his now 6th year in the league.
He has only EVER completed 5 passes that travelled over 57 yards in the air.
This whole debate on 55+ Yard ball placement is laughable.
Mahomes and Herbert are NOT hittting guys in stride with 60 yard bombs every other weekend like people seem to think.
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Also while I’m ranting….
Have you thought logistically what goes in to putting work on this type of ‘deep timing’ go routes.
So you want to put in what like 20 reps in practice? To genuinely work on ‘timing’ Hill has to be running at game speed.
So Hill has to run a max out 60 yard dash 20 times in practice ? Never going to happen.
Tua has to torque his shoulder/elbow on his throwing arm to max capacity 20 times?
After the practice rep, Hill has to jog all the way back to the line to get ready again? It would take like 40 minutes to practice 20 reps.
Seems inefficient to use 30+ mins of practice on the lowest percentage play, that makes up maybe 2% of your offense.Last edited: Sep 22, 2022OwesOwn614, Silverphin and Dol-Fan Dupree like this. -
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To be fair Mahomes underthrew Hill on a lot of deep throws. Hell the most famous one was the super bowl against the 49ers, that was literally like catching a punt.
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Look guys, so many of you are flipping out, “he under threw Hill”. Personally I don’t think so but…whatever. So what if he under threw Hill, the fact there was so much separation between Hill and the defenders AND Tagovailoa OVER threw them is going to result in one thing…a big completion. And the Hill and Waddle’s speed, those big completions are probably going to end up as a TD.
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I think they're working on their timing still but I think every QB is working on their timing with their main receivers. I don't think partnerships like Brady and Gronk happen by accident.
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Not to say Tua completely sucks, but he is just not a strong armed QB. See highlight below, first play Mahomes throws it 70 air yards and hits Hill in stride against triple coverage. Also take a look at the throw at the 3:46 mark, 54 air yards while on the run and hits him in stride. Tua just can't make that type of throw on the run.
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All i see is wide open receivers all the time so jaylen and hill can keep over running all they want. I think we should expect a big game from Cedric soon..
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