Here's an interesting game. Mike Wallace averages 8 TDs a year, which is 7 more than either Hartline or Bess managed in 2012. If we pretended Wallace's production were on the team last season, he would have brought 8 TDs instead of 1 TD at one of those receiver spots.
Go back through 2012's results and add 7 extra TDs to whichever games you like and see how many more games we would have won.
[Yes, this is totally unrealistic, since in Miami Wallace will have a different QB, different scheme, etc etc... but it is meant to be a fun way to see what sort of impact that level of WR production could have had on our season last year]
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I decided to add the 7 TDs as follows...
Houston: We lose 30-17 instead of 30-10.
Jets: We win 27-23 instead of lose 23-20
Bengals: We win 24-13 instead of 17-13
Rams: We win 24-14 instead of 17-14
Colts: We win 27-23 instead of lose 23-20
Titans: We lose 37-10 instead of 37-3
Patriots (1st game): We tie them 23-23 but lose in OT, instead of lose 23-16 in regulation.
If things played out that way, our record would have been 9-7. NOt sure if we would have made the playoffs.
The thing is, you can find places to add the seven TDs and still lose the same number of games, but you could also find places to put those seven TDs and win as many as 6 more games. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. -
Also, Tannehill is better than the Steelers backups no?dolfan22 likes this. -
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He's as good as we're going to get. There's no better options. He costs us no picks, either. All he does he cost us some money. Aren't we going to have a ton of money next year too? And the year after? I've hated on Ireland my fair share, but we're OK cap wise. We've got no contracts of concern on the books going forward as of now. Maybe in two-three years we'll actually develop a young receiving core like GB did. And in the event things don't work out, we just dump him. Unlike Marshall, we won't be eating picks. Just some cap, which we should have plenty of. -
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Add one to Jets game, we win
Add one to Cardinals game, we win
Add two to Patriots game, we win
Add two to 49ers game, but we lose in OT
Add one to Bills game, we win
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For the purposes of this exercise, you can easily take away that 1 TD by Hartline. Just Add Wallace.
And for those who think Hartline will get better if there is a better receiver opposite of him, think again. He will never ever again in his life get as many as targets or opportunities. This season was the peak of his career. He will not get better. -
That is why the WR position as a whole is an overvalued position. Their production is directly tied to their quarterback. It is the most dependent position on the football field. Some of you are falling into the same trap you did with Brandon Marshall, thinking that even if he doesn't touch the football, the fact that he will draw coverage and open up things for everyone else will make the offense better. Except for the fact that Brandon Marshall DID NOT make the offense better, mostly because Miami's quarterback play was terrible.Steve-Mo likes this. -
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Heck, he had only 1 more game over 50 yards last year than he did in 2010.... but he did manage 8 games at 50 yards or less and a 250 yard game that'll never happen again... so there's that to build on.
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Here's the thing though...could it be that IF we had him in 2012, in those games some of the TDs WOULDN'T of happened because it was thrown to him, and it was picked off, or dropped, incomplete etc..?
I'm not saying this as a knock on Wallace, I want him here. But if you gonna play the "What If" Game, you gotta consider the other side of the coin.Bpk likes this. -
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While not worth $12 million, it still would have improve the offense to have a 3rd receiver that actually has an impact.
Miami would have improved because they would have at least three wide receivers who are above decent.
Best case scenerio is that he fit into Miami's high octane offense and has his average year, which adds instead of takes away.
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Unless they plan to go after a Free Agent CB as a starter, I think the money exists to get a more explosive WR. For what it's worth, Keith, I agree with you about Wallace not being a great fit for our offensive philosophy, but I find the idea of having him preferable to having NEITHER him nor Jennings. -
Just watched Wallace's 2012 highlight video on youtube… Anyone that says Wallace is a one trick pony either doesnt know what they are talking about or they are choosing to ignore the facts to try to make a point. Wallace caught 8 TD's last year and three were down the sideline three came from crossing routes (one was a classic Jerry Rice slant… gone TD) one was on a corner fade and one was on a post pattern. In the little highlight video that I saw he caught more balls across the middle than Hartron has ever dreamed of.
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He might be worth signing, however that doesn't mean we should ignore his faults. -
I disagree with KB about the importance of CBs, though. I think safeties are infinitely more important than CBs. -
maybe I wasnt clear enough in my first post. I dont think Wallace doesnt have faults… as a matter of fact I think he runs some pretty sloppy routes from what I have seen but to say he is a one trick pony is either ignorant or hyperbole… you choose…
I am not an NFL scout, I dont pretend to be… to be honest my opinion is that of a novice. I can admit that… :)Fin D and Dol-Fan Dupree like this. -
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