Brightest Blessings.
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Just a general question. Are you a specific kind of Pagan or is there a religion that exists that just calls itself Pagan?
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There are many forms of Paganism. I'm Wiccan.
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Happy beltane....
not sure if this is correct but maybe pagan can explain it a little bit more:
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Hey Pagan, have you ever read the Dies the Fire series by SM Stirling? I only mention it because there is a major wiccan element in the books.
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When is samhain?
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October.
Most people call it Halloween.
No bro...never even heard of it. I'll look into it though. -
ha makes sense......
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Yes and no. It's nothing like the twisted version you see on TV and in the movies.Celtkin likes this.
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I meant more of that is the winter solstice or something like that?
Not trying to hate on your religion bro........... I really have no idea as to what ceremonies go on and such. Would be interested to find out though. -
I don't think you're hating bro.
The Winter Solstice is something everyone's heard of before...it's called Yule and it's on December 21st usually.Last edited: Apr 29, 2008unluckyluciano likes this. -
So how do wiccans celebrate Beltane?
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With a ritual...either solitary or with a coven if you belong to one. Very similar to old May Day celebrations. Most of those were only thinly disguised Pagan rituals.
There's usually a bonfire...and the wrapping of the Maypole. All symbolic things to mark the union of the God & Goddess.unluckyluciano likes this. -
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I honestly do not know anything about Wiccan. I assume that it is a bunch of "covens" and each one pretty much operates differently
How exactly does Wiccan break down? Are there many different types?
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Well first of all bro the faith itself is called "Wicca". Followers are "Wiccan".
You can either be part of a coven - which my wife is - or what's called a solitaire, which I am. There are many different types of Wicca, called Traditions. The most popular one being Gardenian Wicca.
I more closely follow the path of my ancestors in Italy, the Strega...but I don't adhere strictly to it, which would classify me as an Eclectic.
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Happy Beltane! May the seeds of your loins be fruitful in your woman!
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Well Blessed Be my friend!
Good wife ya got there. :lol:
Bite yer tongue bro! No kids for me! :tongue: -
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you're Wiccan? wow i didn't know that.
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I have another question bro, how does one join a coven? Do you just show up? Is their some sort of religious rite that has to take place?
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Hmm, when I first glanced at the thread header, I thought it said "Happy Beltone Day" considereing your profession Pagan, it didn't suprise me...:lol:
Different calendar in Wicca Pagan?
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Ohiophinphan Chaplain Staff Member Luxury Box
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Is that the official name?
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I don't mind bro.
You don't just show up. Usually you approach someone in the Coven. If they accept your approach, then you join them for awhile and learn the ways of the Craft and the Coven's ways. You are then initiated into the Coven in a ceremony, and must continue your education for a year and a day, after which you become a first level Witch.
Somewhat different Padre. Our holidays were pretty much all borrowed by other faiths and the days changed, but they're all pretty close to the original. Ostara was changed to Easter, Samhain was changed to Halloween, Yule was changed to Christmas, etc. etc.gafinfan, padre31, Celtkin and 1 other person like this. -
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Hey, it's our party :hi5:
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haha good then you both can answer my questions. :hi5:
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As long as there are no calculus questions, I should be good to go. :hi5: but for the Wicca questions, I defer to Pagan.
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Ohiophinphan Chaplain Staff Member Luxury Box
Not to hijack your holiday thread but I would differ with you on "borrowed". One of the principals of Christian missionaries (and as I understand it Islamic ones as well), was to reinterpret the holiday. Winter Solstice was the time of returning light and Christians applied the sense of Jesus as the light coming into the world and used the holiday to explain their theology. We call it meeting people where they are at. The spring or vernal equinox is observed in many, many cultures as a time of new birth. Each faith takes folks where they are and re-interprets the experiance to tell their story. -
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no dis-respect intended but it seems you are splitting hairs here. slight the difference borrowed and re-interpreted to me. basically, if i am reading correctly, early Christians applied Christian values to existing traditions to help explain their story.
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Bro...why don't you look up some of the stories on Christian websites as to the origin of the Christmas tree - a Pagan tradition called the Yule tree - and see how there's no mention whatsoever of its Pagan origins, just a new story of how it symbolized their beliefs.
That's not borrowing or re-interpreting, but out and out stealing.
But this thread wasn't about that. ;)
That's the main reason bro. During mass conversions, it was easier to get Pagans (aside from killing those who wouldn't convert) to convert by making all the holidays similar to theirs.
Anyway, like I said this thread wasn't about that....nor really was it intended to be a lesson in Wiccan beliefs.
I just wanted to wish any other Pagans on the board a Happy holiday. :)Last edited: Apr 29, 2008 -
I agree with you somewhat Pagan, except for one point, Easter was Ishtar, in fact if one looks at A Concordance, "Easter" is translated from "Ishtar" the Middle Eastern deity.
Not that it would keep a later generation from using your Ostarra...
Anywho, are there any celestal events involved with this celebration?Last edited: Apr 29, 2008 -
Not on the Sabbat itself, but the following day the first quarter new moon is entering Aries. Other than that, pretty quiet celestially. :tongue:
As for Ostara, I was talking about the traditions. Colored eggs...baskets, etc. etc.Last edited: Apr 29, 2008
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