... then who would you bring in to replace them?
My choices would be...
GM: Bill Cowher
HC: Brian Billick
Why? They share a consistent team building philosophy that is a proven recipe for perennial success. Imposing and aggressively physical defenses, bull-dozer running games with big and nasty offensive lines who open up lanes for a dominantly physical powerback, a mixture of both fast and physical wide receivers (they always seem to have a speedy receiver and a big physical receiver on their teams).
I think they would be a perfect pairing of philosophies and knowledge. Also their combined gravitas would attract high caliber talent wanting to play for a team they were in charge of.
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Cowher has himself a nice cushy job as analyst and Billick has been out of the game for FAR too long.
As I said in another thread, Grier is going nowhere. Ross won’t consider firing him unless for some reason the wheels completely come off and we only win some 5 games.
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Are you AquaPride in disguise? If not, you two should meet as you are both as mental as each other.
Yes, let's hire 2 guys who are collecting pensions and haven't been in the league for 17 years and 16 years.
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A wise man once said never go full ret@rd. You're close but not quite there yet. Next time I would suggest getting the band back together by bringing in Jimmy Johnson as our GM with his insane history of drafting HOF defenses and none other than Dan Marino as the HC. Anyone who calls him uncle Dan can GTFO and go play for the USFL. Now stop being silly and get on board with McDaniel & Snoop. There's still hope.danmarino likes this.
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This thread is something out of a time capsule of two decades ago.. no thanks..
mcdaniels is safe for at least another season.. grier will be gone and ross will likely give mcdaniels gm control to try to fix the roster his way for one full offseason before making a decision on his future. Assistant gm will move up to process any move mcdaniels will make but mcdaniels will have final say for one full offseasob.danmarino likes this. -
If Miami is going to hire an old HC who has been out of the game for a bit, you spelled Belichick wrong.
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Man, there are a lot of paranoid people here. I'm me. Never registered here before that I recall.
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Hey, how are you liking the low road?
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You can't expect people to take that post of yours as anything but trolling surely? How can someone actually suggest we get two pensioners who haven't worked in the league for 17 years (and it's changed a ton in that time) and keep a straight face?
If you actually meant what you posted, I apologise but at the same time I'll basically be skipping over your posts as my mind can't quite understand how anyone could post that and be serious about it.texanphinatic, Tuanon4Life and danmarino like this. -
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Haha, sorry I don't hide behind alt names. I am myself, the only one out there. I think you might be projecting again.
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Pete Carrol is going on 73 yrs old and easily found a job.
Marv Levy coached till almost 73 yrs old.
Bill Belechik coached to 71 yrs old and did not choose to stop. Quite a few teams would.be happy as hell to have him. In fact one poster here said he would rather have Belechik than Billick. I don't think the NFL press would bat an eye or decry him as too old if he landed a head coach position this year.
Romeo Crenell coached until he was 75.
Brian Billick is going on 70 years old. I am not even on the highside of those coach's age range.
Try again friend. Just because you disagree does not mean using the man's age against him In an insulting manner by calling him a pensioner as if it equates with him not being able to do a better job than many current younger coaches is a worthy or legitimate answer.
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The oldest coach in NFL history was Crenell at 73 years old (not 75), and that was a one year stint after "retiring" at 65. We want a coach who can stay here for the long term, like 1-2 decades or more. The oldest I'd go is 60, no older.
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You're right. Romeo was 2/3 the way to 74 when he retired. My point was bring in Billick with a hand picked OC to groom as HC when he retired.
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The game has long since passed both of these men by and hiring either of them would be a completely foolish idea IMO.
That being said, unless this team really struggles the rest of the year I don't see McDaniel being fired, but I sure hope Grier is.
That being said if anyone's getting fired I hope it's a full house cleaning this time, not another half measure. I just don't see either happening unless there's a catastrophic end to the season.
Grier has proven his incompetence. McDaniel is starting to show signs of failure as well this year so far, but this team is built to win now (or so they think) and with top players on big deals currently, right now isn't the best time to rebuild again. I think they give both another year unless its catastrophic as i said above.Last edited: Sep 30, 2024dolphin25, JJ_79 and Born_in_'72 like this. -
Get rid of Grier? Hell yes! Replace with one of the geriatric suggestions? That's gonna be a no from me.
Get rid of McDaniel? Nope. He deserves at least one season out from under that jackhole to prove his worth. However, I don't think he should be given the GM/HC crown.Fishhead and Born_in_'72 like this. -
McD should get a chance with a new GM. In my opinion he’s being shackled by Grier. We should look to yank some “youngster” out of KC, Baltimore, SF, any stable organization. Forget the old geezers.
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I'm not insulting anyone when I call him a pensioner because that is exactly what he is (in the UK anyway since men become pensioners at 65 currently, rises to 67 and 68 later). He also hasn't coached in 17 years, there is a reason for that. Imagine not working for 17 years and going back into your old profession as if nothing has changed. I'm a software engineer by trade and I can tell you a whole lot has changed in my field in the last 17 years.
If you want someone old, one of the greatest coaches of all time is available right now and he was coaching last year. In case you missed it, no team wanted him this offseason and his teams have sucked for the last few years.Born_in_'72 likes this. -
Hire Deion Sanders as HC and draft Shedeur Sanders with our 1st rounder. If I’m Ross I would make McDaniel the ball boy. If he's getting paid he might as well work for the money. Plus he has experience. I'm not at all joking. Make him the ball boy.
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I was huge fan of McDaniel, but his play calling and logic is horrific. I'm ready for him to either be fired or give up play calling. We have the fastest roster in the league and we are calling 5 yard backward pitches, parallel to the line routes, and bubble screens? OMG make it stop!Born_in_'72, Hooligan and Tuanon4Life like this.
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I thought we wanted to actually win and be successful in the NFL, Hm... guess I was wrong.M1NDCRlME likes this.
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OK let's hire another next big thing genius first time HC since it's worked so well the last 20 years.
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I think Detriot and the Ravens have both proven the blueprint Cowher and Billick both utilized to great success is still one of the best blueprints there is to win at the highest level in the NFL.
Are there others? Sure, but if you trace back all the Championship teams in league history since before the merger through last year's championship you will find more of them follow that blueprint than not. Our team is a bad example of just how much getting away from that blueprint impacts your odds of winning games against playoff and championship quality teams.
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What's funniest about this thread is I literally asked for others to name whoever they themselves would choose, but all I get is a hate parade from many who don't have any new ideas themselves and just want to jump on my picks. Show some imagination and knowledge. Tell us who you would pick and why instead of just jumping on someone else's ideas to try and deride them.
Hating on someone is easy, but it's too hard for you to put a little thought into coming up with an answer for the question that was posted? That looks pretty weak if you ask me.Tuanon4Life likes this. -
That’s maybe, because it’s a little early for that. I don’t see them breaking things up and Ross is probably going to stay put with how things are. As for a coach, if we‘re talking hypothetically, I‘d like Vrabel personally.Hooligan and Tuanon4Life like this.
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That's because many fans don't pay a lot of attention to other teams and thus have only a cursory knowledge of potential replacements for coaches, let alone front office/GM. We can all read a list and spout the same names if you want (Klint Kubiak! Bobby Slowik!! Ben Johnson!!!), or dredge up the same fossils people have been talking about for near decades. It's kind of hard to have a serious conversation around the idea of Cowher and Billick (or Deion, jfc) as solutions. Maybe we should just bring Saban back lol.
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I get that, but the post was a completely hypothetical question. Personally I like your pick too. He's got enough of that old-school mentality to appeal to my tastes.JJ_79 likes this.
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If we can talk about other quarterbacks, running backs, offensive tackles, defensive ends, and linebackers we would rather have picked, or pick up in the future, then why not name coaches and GM's we would rather have. For instance one poster saying maybe we will stick with the current regime and suck until 2026 so we can then bring in a new HC and GM who will pick up Archie Manning.
That's a long way off, and dependent on nobody else sucking worse than us in 2025. I think my post is a much more plausible scenario, but I could be wrong. Hopefully I am not. I'd rather see us close this year strong and perform next year the way many hoped we would this year.
Also, if we were to somehow finagle our way into picking up a promising new QB in 2026, then wouldn't it be much better for them and the team to have a GM and HC in position next year to start putting together the building blocks of a better all around team to support their talent and development. I am now of the opinion that with the abysmal play of our offensive line it wouldn't matter much if we had say Goff, Mahomes, or Stafford running our offense on the field. We'd just be fielding another quality talent to put on IR sometime during the course of the year. -
We don't generally talk about those things in the season unless it's regarding an upcoming opponent, a potential trade target, etc. We talk QBs because Tua is out and the replacements have been ... underwhelming, to put it charitably. Regardless, we generally know much more about players than we do about the offensive coordinator of the Rams or Defensive coordinator of the Packers. And fewer still will have any knowledge at all about GM/Front office types.
There is no plausible scenario that sees Bill Cowher come out of retirement to be something he never was and then hire a guy as old as Billick to coach.
Disagree on Mahomes, he took a horrendous line to the Super Bowl, granted they lost that one. However in general the line has been the focal point of our problems outside of Tua being gone. But this team has also had two winning, playoff seasons in a row. It's not like the Tua/McDaniel duo has been bad.Born_in_'72 and danmarino like this. -
Alright, I’ve left this thread alone for the most part. It’s full of emotional rancor, but if I were Stephen Ross, I’m firing Chris Grier.
He presided over the fiasco of Joe Philbin
He presided over the fiasco of Adam Gase
He presided over the fiasco of Brian Flores
Now on his 4th head coach, this season has melted down.
Forget the Tua injury issue, what has Flores done to ensure the Dolphins had a viable backup quarterback? Skylar Thompson, Mike White, Tim Boyle, Tyler Huntley…none of them have worked out one bit. McDaniel has won only 1 game with a backup quarterback.
Our offensive line has been atrocious! Now, while no one really expects a backup quarterback to be just as good as the starter, what everyone does and should expect is the remaining offensive unit to play at the same level for the backup as the starter. But when your offensive line is so weak that your starting quarterback masks the weaknesses of the line, that backup isn’t going to stand a chance. So the same question posed as to what has Grier done to shore up the backup quarterback is poses here…what has Grier done to shore up the offensive line?
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