Yeah sorry...find a report by someone who isnt a joke and ill take it seriously.

 

Because it's not controversial enough to fit an agenda thus starting a thread on a message board.

 

Well there are still questions about what full control is to Ross. I mean if the GM asks him, "Can I fire Philbin if I don't want him here?" "Can I replace any of the front office (Aponte) if I want my guys here?" and the answer is No then he....doesn't have full control. We are keeping Philbin and Aponte so obviously a new GM doesn't have control right off the bat. Now maybe he will after a year and he can decide who stays or goes but if a GM feels like Philbin and Aponte have Ross's ear and they can't be fired.....well then WTF is full control? Its an issue.

 

The only gm who has this type of control is jerry jones. I doubt any other gm in the league can straight up fire an executive like your saying.

Full control means you can sign, trade, release, draft whomever you want. Thats what a gm's job is.

 

I wouldn't dismiss the report if it weren't la canfora. He's got less credibility then armando or omar kelly. And that's tough to do.

 

I'm sure it isn't a very desirable position, this is NOT news anymore.

 

That's not really what Ross said. I'm not sure what full autonomy over the 53-man roster means either.

I think the confusion is occurring because there are multiple franchise models still on the table. I'm not sure Omar Khan and Brian Xanders are interviewing for the same job even though the title may be the same.

 

Is it really that hard to believe that GMs might have questions about the power structure in Miami? Forget about who is reporting it and how trustworthy they are. Many of us on this board said this would be a problem all the way back when Sparano was fired in 2011. We said it was a problem then that Ireland was left on board and that it could create a problem if Ireland eventually was fired but the coach was kept. And here we are. Now that news sources are reporting what many of us on this board speculated about 3 years ago, it's being written off as ridiculous. If you were entering a job where you knew 2 of the people on staff worked together in concert to get the guy you were replacing fired, would you have concerns? I'm not saying you wouldn't take the job, but you would definitely have questions about where you stood in relation to those folks.

I'm not saying this spells doom and gloom for Miami. But to write this off as preposterous ignores a very big 800 lb gorilla in the room, IMHO.

 

Why do i think if it was Dave Aponte and not Dawn that the drama queens wouldnt be creating well so much drama over nothing......

 

More speculation. Not sure if care.

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I'm noticing a theme here.

 

Of course it's a problem. The main question for the GM is whether Ross is hiring him to build the winner or to serve Philbin for the duration of his tenure. Those are two different things. If he is hired to serve Philbin, then how come he does not report to Philbin? And that is a lame duck position. If he is hired to build the winner, then he should have a say over who coaches the team, fire a HC who does not perform, get rid of the QB, etc.

 

Which GMs can fire coaches?

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Sigh.

 

the only mess is the guy himself

 

The one in Dallas, Denver, Buffalo, for example.

 

:sidelol:

 

One of those is the owner and an other is John Elway. Just look at the teams left, Seattle? No. San Fran? No. New England? Nope. One team is set up for what you're advocating.

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Who knows with all the info out there what is truth, false, or plain guessing?

 

That's all fine and dandy, but how about the beer in the stadium? What if he wants a different beer? Does he have control over that? And how about that peanut vendor in section 118? Does he have control over that? That guy that puts the tarp on the field. Can he replace him? I get that everyone is going to ask about control. But they are going to ask about control during EVERY GM interview that they do. Why are the Dolphins in some bizzarro world, unlike any other franchise in the history of the NFL? I just took a different job within my company. I asked what control I had. I asked whether I could fire the Supervisors that worked under me. At no point did I think that my company was completely screwed up because I had to ask that question.

The OP only thinks it's interesting because it is negative. I believe that is the only things that interests him about the Dolphins right now.

 

I am not advocating for one way or the other. I am just stating that it is a concern for a GM. I believe in, where there is a will there is a way, and the way is money.

 

Spot on. Had to double check to make sure this was your post lol.

 

Maybe I need to rethink my stance if you agree… :lol:

 

Or maybe I've had too much too drink lol

 

...and its Buffalo, a model franchise......

 

The Bucs have most of their coaches in place. No GM yet. In fact I'd say a GM would have less power there than here. Why aren't the Bucs being questioned about their organizational structure?

 

Lovie has final say on all personnel moves. I don't even know what the point of the GM job really is in Tampa. the "GM" who takes the tampa job will have to run every move by Lovie Smith before it can occur.

 

Aponte manages the salary cap, the GM handles the roster. Aponte has no say on the length of time the player stays on the team, that is on the GM. She manages the numbers in the contract and how they are spread throughout the length of the active contract. She has to factor in contingencies and penalties that would affect the salary cap projection. All this has to be taken into consideration along with the rest of the other active player contracts when negotiating with the player's agent on salary distribution. In your example, if a player wants 15 mil guaranteed, Aponte's job would be to know whether or not the team can afford that salary, or what would have to happen to make the numbers work. Roster decisions will belong to the GM, Aponte does the math. The GM does the shopping, Aponte keeps the checkbook balanced.

 

The position is for a GM, who will be presiding with full autonomy and control of the 53 man roster. There is currently a coach in place that the GM will be expected to corroborate, and work with
in developing and upgrading the roster. Additionally Dawn Aponte will be available to assist with cap management and contract negotiation.

A candidate with significant experience in managing these two aspects, should be under no obligation to work with Aponte, and should be granted the freedom to manage the cap and negotiate contracts as he sees fit if so desired.

A candidate however with lesser experience in those two areas, may be held to a shorter leash, and initially could be expected to work with Aponte in accordance with the best interests of the organization.

This is how I would presume they're conducting, interviews and explaining the position. They may not be revealing to each candidate of which group each belongs, and thus could be causing the anxiety being described.

It would surprise me if the topic of firing coaches, or executive VP's is even being discussed, at least at this stage of the interview process.

 

thats a pretty good percentage out of 32 teams....

 

LaCanfora isn't as connected as he'd have everyone believe, that's why NFLN dropped him and they don't drop anyone? Seriously, his connection with this team is Mando...that tells me everything I want to know about him...

Now, that doesn't mean some of this may be true, but until it's heard from a more credible source, like one of the candidates, I find it a bit hard to believe. If that were the case, why would any of these guys still want to be on our radar...At that point, EVERY candidate should be dropping out of our race....

 

Yes and look at the cluster ****s two of them are in Dallas and Buffalo....

 

Obviously no one can fire a person above them, thats stupid. But there are a lot of people in the front office and Aponte shouldn't be above a GM so if he didn't want to work with her, IF he had full control he should be able to fire them. And a GM should be able to pick his coach, thats a pretty standard model around the league.

 

LB, without being an azz, is there anything about the Fins do that you like ?? You were very vocal about Ireland and wanting him fired for last 3 yrs, that's fine. You finally get what you've been advocating all along and now you don't like any candidate and are bashing the organization for not getting the the guys YOU wanted...

Can't have it both ways...Well, that's not true either, I guess you can have it any way you want, but geez... I hope for your sake, we get a GM that you approve of....