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  2. Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    Why would the Dolphins do this? While I was all for trading Hill (for value) earlier in the year, this seems like nothing more than a Raider fan fantasy. The Dolphins get almost nothing in return, create a hole in their lineup that they wouldn't be able to fill, and undermine Tua and McDaniel in an important season where the team is a playoff contender.

    Would someone suggest that the Bengals make the same trade with Ja'Marr Chase? I really doubt that.
     
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  3. Fireland Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't really make as much sense for the Raiders since they drafted 2 WRs and they are having good camps. "Tom Brady is going to want to win now" is some goofy logic.

    And if Miami was willing to just give him away it probably would have happened already
     
  4. pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    This team is not a playoff team so I could definitely see them trading Hill in Nov after Tua gets hurt again and McDaniel gets fired.
    Getting asses handed to them again in practice by lions
    This was supposed to be a team competing for championships after having all those draft picks not a hope and a prayer for a wildcard appreance.
    Ross is a terrible owner and Grier and McDaniel should have been kicked to the curb in the off season.
     
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  5. texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Not sure the cap works for it, but frankly I wouldn't care if we lost Hill. I wanted him gone after last season anyway. Does ANYONE trust that his current injury is actually an injury? I have no real confidence in him.
     
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    So, the offer is to trade our best player for a few future late-round draft picks and a TE. Hmm, I'd really have to think about that. Would they trade a beer and a hotdog for our stadium as well? Or maybe we just give them the entire city of Miami for five tacos and a Gatorade.

    Any objective mind would not propose a scenario so one-sided. Hill is a generational talent.
     
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  7. pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Nope.He is a locker room cancer
     
  8. pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately trading for him has done nothing to move this franchise forward.
    We are in the same spot we have been in for the last 25 years.
     
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  9. Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    That's an extremely black and white way to look at sports. Why even bother watching the games if its only the standings at the end of the season that matter?
     
  10. Fishhead Well-Known Member

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    I think the only way this would be at all realistic is if LV were to take on the entirety of Hill’s contract, thereby creating some financial breathing room. You’re not going to get a lot back for a guy everyone assumes won’t be on the team after this season, and the argument could be made that it would make the offense better, because Tua (and McD) won’t be able to force the ball to Hill, and will have to look at other options.

    I don’t think there’s much substance here, but it’s something to talk about besides the daily overreactions to practice reports.
     
  11. pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    If you don’t care if your team is good or bad then what's the point.
    Winning is all that matters and this team can't even win one playoff game.And I'm sorry that isn't asking much in 25 years.
    But you are right about one thing.
    Not sure why I bother to watch this same crap year after year hoping I'm wrong.
     
  12. Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    Winning obviously is the most important thing at the end of the day, but watching the process is important as well.
     
  13. pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Been watching the process since the 70s.
    The process the last 25 years sucks!
     
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  14. Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    I think that the results would likely be quite different were the Fins in another division, but they're damned to be in the East.
     
  15. pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Could be worse being AFC north or better in either South conference where we belong being the most southern team.
     
  16. RGF THE FINSTER Club Member

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    The Dolphins will surprise a lot of people this year. How far will they go? No idea, but they will be a lot more competitive than the early know-it-alls give them credit for.
     
  17. pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    You sound like me last year at this time.
     
  18. TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    A relatively healthy Dolphins team is winning 10+ games. Don't care what anyone says.
     
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  19. Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    Especially given that nearly all media outlets seem to think that 8-10 of the Dolphins opponents this season are going to finish with a losing record, and many of those same teams had a bottom-ten offense last season.

    How a Dolphins team that was ravaged by injuries last season but still managed to limp to an 8-8 record before the final week gets many important players back healthy, improves both through the draft and with proven veterans, loses mostly only old and injured players from last year, and faces what's frankly not a difficult schedule ends up as one of the worst teams in some people's eyes is quite the mystery. I challenge anyone to use one of the various services that lets them pick every game week by week, and then show me how you came up with that result.

    I think that as many as eleven AFC teams could finish with a winning record, leading to a muddy WC field, but that the Fins are right there in that bunch and a few key games will determine how high they end up.
     
  20. pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    When Is this team ever healthy?
     
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    Winning a playoff game should be the absolute minimum threshold for keeping McDaniel. We're in year 4 and the team (and offense) seriously regressed last year. Ross is also fairly predictable with his 3-4 year trial period for HCs, so it's not unreasonable to expect a change at HC (who knows about Grier) if we don't win a playoff game this year.

    As usual I'll root for the team, but I'm not very optimistic this year.
     
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  22. Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    So if the Fins go 12-5 and have their best regular season in 35 years, that wouldn't be enough for you if Buffalo wins 13+ games like they usually do?
     
  23. cbrad .

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    Yeah sorry 4 seasons no excuses.

    .. and just so it's clear, with 12-5 we almost certainly get into the playoffs, so that means the question is whether we CAN win a playoff game with this HC and an apparently strong team. If you still can't win in the playoffs after that kind of regular season performance, something is seriously wrong.
     
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  24. Fireland Well-Known Member

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    Its obvious win a playoff game or bust but at the same time there are some scenarios where it isn't clean house worthy with the AFC being stacked.

    Just like how their two losses are very different. Their performance vs the Chief was embarrassing but they really gave the Bills as much as was realistically possible. If they lost to the Chiefs close but because Mahomes just did Mahomes things it wouldn't feel so hopeless.
     
  25. pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't matter to me if they are 16-1 and get beat in 2nd round.
    Playoff win or bust!
     
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  26. Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    In 58 years of existence, the Dolphins have never won a cold weather road playoff game. In fact, most of those games have not been close. I don't expect that to ever change, no matter how good the team is. Winning the division, or getting lucky and being able to play on the road at the AFC South champ, is basically essential to winning in the post season.
     

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