You make the call. (#75)
Did Wake get hooked/held and should it have been called?
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They got ****ed on a lot of holding calls in that game, that one I think was just the most noteworthy.
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Down of Wake during Wayne's 9 yard TD??? Pics included.
I yelled pretty loud when this happened. The refs basically decided not to call holding yesterday, except for a BS one on Thigpen's kick return.unluckyluciano and ToddPhin like this. -
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All of the great pass rushers get held on most plays and they won't call them all because the QB is given every opportunity to make plays. This one however is just a terrible no-call. There is no excuse for allowing an OL to be credited with a legit block from behind.
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This should be a penalty, but one of the many things that isn't really called that often in today's NFL.
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another nomination for dumbest post of the year. easily top three.
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Every damn game i see wake getting held and no call is made. It also always seems to end up being a big play down the field. :tantrum:
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While you're wasting your time, review game tape of every snap of every team so far this season to see how many holding penalties aren't called. You might be surprised. Holding happens on EVERY play. If if got called every time we would never have football games.
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Answer me this. Is it a penalty? Yes or No. Are they called in the NFL, yes or no? If the rule has become so ambiguous as you're alluding, then what determines when Refs decide to call or not call it? Random chance? Coin flip? Do the refs convene before a drive and say "We'll call holding on this series against Wake but if he gets a sack we'll allow them the following few drives."?Fin-Omenal likes this.
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There is research that indicates home field advantage results in favorable calls from the refs.ToddPhin likes this.
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I don't have the answer to that question. But I do know you will drive yourself crazy trying to document every holding play that isn't called. There's nothing you can do about it. You're just spinning your wheels and wasting your time. But if you're dead set on it, I would like for you to document plays with missed holding calls that benefited us as well.ToddPhin likes this.
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You mean like Pittsburgh IN Sunlife 2 years ago??? :shifty:
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I mean you can always find exceptions to the rule. But generally speaking, the research indicates home field advantage really has no effect on how players play, but it does influence officiating.
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I don't doubt that. But I watch a lot of football and yesterday was pretty pathetic.
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You're Special.
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Never mind the holds that they did call to effectively seal the game.
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Bingo. Thought the Steelers actually overcame one of those Sunday vs the Giants.
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There was one play I remember Wake getting spun completely around by some OL holding onto his jersey. Does it really matter though? Luck would have converted on 3 & 30...
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I think it's a play that if the umpire was behind the MLB as they used to be all the time, that official would have seen it pretty clearly.
Speaking of calls or non calls, there was a play late in the game where Wake was taking down Luck, and I swear Luck's left knee contacted the ground before he released the pass, which was completed for a 1st down.CashInFist and ToddPhin like this. -
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This is Roger's NFL. He wants offense, scoring and casual fans. He wants big ratings and big TV contacts.
The game has been compromised for years. Holding is called VERY rarely. Usually if it is blatant an at the point of attack on a run play. On pass rushes it is rarely called. The mandate is protect the quarterback, nothing else matters. Roger has already made it clear he does not give a flying **** about the integrity of the sport, this will not change anytime soon.
If I am the Dolphins I send in tape after every game. They might look like whiners but if they rattle the cage enough maybe they get a damn call.ToddPhin likes this. -
I can understand the reasoning why its overlooked, but still see it as complete BS, as it reduces the effectivness of an otherwise team strength.
By enforcing such penalties, it forces the offense to dedicate a TE to assist with blocking, rather than enjoy the luxury of another reciever.
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